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Just wondering the best method here. Searching doesn't always get me the answer for every game, and I keep having this issue where I launch a game and it will load then stop without ever displaying anything (liminal core and assetto corsa are 2 examples). Running mint, all AMD. protonge, wine tricks, all of that needed stuff is installed. I run steam from terminal to try and see if I can figure out where it's crashing, but I'm not totally sure. Is there a better error dump I can access ? I've tried multiple proton versions, do I need to launch it with all 50 versions to find a working one?

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[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 32 points 4 weeks ago

ProtonDB. If there's nothing there, then I resort to running Steam in the terminal to see logs.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 18 points 4 weeks ago

I start a script instead of the Steam binary directly.

#!/bin/bash
exec steam "$@" >~/.steamlog -console -nobigpicture -nochatui -nofriendsui -silent 2>&1 &

That way, I've always got a log of terminal output in a file in my home directory, and don't need to go restarting Steam, just glancing at the file. Gets overwritten the next time I start Steam.

[-] jonathan@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 weeks ago

Does this have different output to the journald logs? journalctl -fex -u steam usually has what I need.

[-] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago

I'm going to have to try this out, thanks!

[-] jonathan@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 weeks ago

Check the Github issue tracker too, especially for games that have just released. The pyroveil fix for AC: Shadows was on the issue for that game a day or two before ProtonDB.

[-] bigboismith@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago
  1. Protondb
  2. Different proton version
  3. Restart steam in terminal and look at what it logs (permission problems are quite frequent multi-user system)
  4. Die
[-] technomad@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 weeks ago

If number 3 fixed it, do I still need to move on to number 4?

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 weeks ago

I don't see how #3 would fix it, it should run the game exactly the same way.

[-] moody@lemmings.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

You don't have to do it now, but at some point you won't be allowed to delay it anymore.

[-] Gobbel2000@programming.dev 10 points 4 weeks ago

You have already done most of what I would do, but here is my list:

  • Try another Proton version (in my experience Proton 6 seems stable and sufficiently different)
  • Check ProtonDB if this problem is known
  • Read the logs in the command line output
  • Try both steam-native and steam-runtime (maybe this is only an Arch thing?)
  • First back up, then delete the entire protonprefix (~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/<GAME-ID>). THIS WILL ALSO REMOVE ALL SAVEFILES OF THE GAME!
  • Use an Xorg desktop environment instead of Wayland
[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 weeks ago
[-] BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 4 weeks ago

Run from terminal and see what went wrong.

If you’re using a launcher with built in logger, refer to that (I’ve seen one on lutris, not Bottles, unsure about heroic).

[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

I go on protondb and see if people regularly have problems. If not I check to see if someone has the same GPU. Then I try whatever trick they have there. Then I try switching to an X11 session instead of wayland.

If there's a launcher like rockstar I search for that specifically.

[-] karthnemesis@leminal.space 5 points 4 weeks ago

I usually don't have to do this at all, but this is my system for the rare hiccups, in order.

  • ProtonDB
  • Are they using an incompatible anticheat?
  • Different proton (usually one a few versions behind esp if it's an old game, maybe GE, more than that isn't useful)
  • Verify installed files through steam
  • Make sure my mod load order isn't crap (if applicable)

.

  • Check if the game launcher actually points to the correctly named file + rename / change the exe if not (usually this gives an error box saying the file is not present)
  • Uninstall + reinstall (esp if previously worked)
  • Broad internet search for game + linux distro
  • Launch options I've used for other games (PROTON_USE_WINED3D11=1 often is my first tried)

.

  • Protontricks, tell it to use a different version of windows
  • Uninstall DLC, launch vanilla once, reinstall DLC (yes this has worked more than once for various weird issues, no i don't know why)
  • Backup personal data files, + delete all installed files / workshop files + verify installed files again
  • Wait for someone smarter than me to figure it out / a system update that addresses it / new proton and check in a few months
[-] Montagge@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 weeks ago

PROTON_LOG=1 in the launch options

[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

First I typically see if other Proton versions work, like ProtonGE or Experimental. That tends to fix quite a number of issues.

If still not, to ProtonDB I go. Often if I can't find a solution there it's hopeless.

[-] Shawdow194@fedia.io 4 points 4 weeks ago

I have two machines with different hardware.

Sometimes this helps if it runs on one vs the other

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 4 weeks ago

If it's something not on ProtonDB I will try installing common dependencies like the Visual C++ Runtime and .Net.

[-] nichtburningturtle@feddit.org 3 points 4 weeks ago

Change proton and proton-ge versions. Other than that, pray that it fixes itself if a few days / weeks.

[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

More often then not it's because of an update and I reboot.

I know, I know, don't ask, it works.

Otherwise I just spam different Proton version until something magically works.

[-] perishthethought@lemm.ee 1 points 4 weeks ago

This! Always.

[-] applemao@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Looks like I'm doing something right then!

[-] IEatDaGoat@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago

If it doesn't work with normal proton or bleeding edge proton experimental, then I refund.

[-] Lemmchen@feddit.org 2 points 4 weeks ago

Proton Hotfix and Proton Experimental

[-] _____@lemm.ee 1 points 4 weeks ago

I had this issue where a game wouldn't launch at all and there weren't any useful logs. I don't know how to use wine to launch the game without steam so I didn't do that. I stead I pretty much reinstalled kernel and dependencies. I don't know what went wrong or how that fixed it but it did.

I think it had something to do with drivers.

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