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[-] Hegar@fedia.io 73 points 11 months ago

It's insane to think "only some fascism" is a viable electoral platform. The "all the fascism" minority won't support you and the "no fascism" majority will stay home again.

Newsom is just another short sighted coward happy to watch the poors suffer as long as his seat is comfortable.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 months ago

It’s insane to think “only some fascism” is a viable electoral platform. The “all the fascism” minority won’t support you and the “no fascism” majority will stay home again.

That was basically 2024's two major candidates. Full fascism and murder, some fascism and slightly less murder.

Fascists won't compromise on 40% evil, because they only want 100% fascism. Trump secured their vote. The most evil member who has his own cultists, not a big shock that evil people like evil.

People with a conscience saw that a candidate was willing to compromise on letting trans people get hurt, neutral on an active genocide in Gaza, didn't care about Mexicans in cages, wasn't budging on helping working class families, or trying to roll back Trump's changes from 2016 that didn't get rolled back over 10 years of "fighting against Trump".

So it was 100% evil, or 40% evil. One is better but neither is good.

[-] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 11 months ago

Presumably his advisors determined that he needed to Overton more and faster if he wanted to ensure that he'd be the neolib weasel the DNC shoves down our throats in 2028.

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 11 months ago

People really still out here believing in the 2028 election 😂

[-] reiterationstation@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

Well to be fair it would be easier for them if they takeover the dnc (they being maga) and give us the illusion of elections.

[-] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

I guess Kamala Harris’s former campaign advisors found new employment.

[-] harmsy@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Bro needs to read the damn room.

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 11 months ago

He did. The room is full of, bought by, and paid for, by MAGA.

[-] Steve@communick.news 21 points 11 months ago

He's in a different room than we are.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

His audience is DNC leadersip.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

California doesn't really like brown people. Source: White Californian who is around discussions about brown people from liberals and conservatives.

[-] Mjpasta710@midwest.social 3 points 11 months ago

It's not just California. People are ignorant all over.

[-] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

Richest state in the richest country in the world and Californians are still convinced their problems are poor and brown people and not the people actually holding all the fucking wealth?

Not surprising. Still Americans.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 22 points 11 months ago

Reminder that Newsom is to the right of the state Congress, the House and Senate passed a RCV bill but Newsom vetoed it.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 11 points 11 months ago

the House and Senate passed a RCV bill but Newsom vetoed it.

Wow that is fucked up. Like, seriously fucked up.

[-] ifeelsick@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

Heard somebody else describe it as he might be getting ready to run as a candidate for the next presidential election.

I could see him as trying to appeal to red states by trashing on immigrants. its been proven to be effective with the current administration and I can most definitely see him using that momentum to get his shoe in with some voters.

[-] reiterationstation@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Crockett said the dnc has already chosen their white male 2028 candidate.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Remember when they used to at least pretend to let us pick?

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago

Democrats learned from their mistake in 2008, allowing a younger person to enter the race and not tip the scales. They made sure to never let anything unplanned happen ever again. As long as I have been able to vote, I haven't had a fair primary for the party that is closest to my views on the nation level.

Republicans didn't really expect Trump, and they liked that he drove in viewers with his batshit insane rants about Mexico. He brought in viewers and water cooler talk about "Did you see him talk about his dick at the debates?" The RNC rolled with the punches of Trump's lunacy.

Doesn't help the media gravitated to him, giving him free press coverage. No such thing as bad news for fascists, after all. And while the media gave free attention to Trump, they somehow never covered Bernie when he was winning states and popularity votes, especially when he was more likely to defeat Trump in a 1v1.

Just... "funny" how the media focused on fascism and ignored the person who wanted to make fascism unviable.

[-] bluegreenwookie@bookwormstory.social 1 points 11 months ago

He already sold trans people down the river with his comments on trans sports.

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 11 months ago

Scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds.

[-] CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 months ago

Pretty clearly trying to reposition himself closer to the center for a 2028 presidential run. Good luck with that.

[-] Gregg@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

He’ll have to pivot to the “middle” again once 2028 arrives

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

"I'll only 'slow walk' us into fascism" isn't the flex he thinks it is.

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 13 points 11 months ago

Time for Jello Biafra to write a new updated California Uber Alles

[-] ProfHillbilly@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

California Uber Alles Where are the Dead Kennedys when you need them? Sometimes I feel like I am the only punk who made it throught he 80s.

[-] anon6789@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Someone better check on this guy, he seems to have had the same type of stroke that Fetterman had.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 16 points 11 months ago

Nah he was always an opportunist who lacked any real convictions. Californians knew this already but now the national public is learning of it.

[-] anon6789@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

That's disappointing. I'm really hoping this isn't the next presidential candidate we're going to get.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There’s never going to be a president that liberates us. The office itself is tyrannical in nature.

We will need to liberate ourselves.

[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

One of the loudest voices telling us to shutdown while he had dinners with unmasked friends.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

Man that was a bad look for him. I was 100% for the lockdown to help slow COVID. But it was just emblematic of the issues people had with him.

He told everyone to be locked down and stay tight. He got to stay having parties with his friends in his wine houses in Napa Valley, which somehow got lighter restrictions for COVID policies and punishments for disobeying them.

Jimmy Carter had his issues in the office, but he practiced what he preached. When he wanted America to stop spending so much gas during the various crisis, he had the white house turn down its gas he wore swears, publicly and privately.

[-] andyburke@fedia.io 11 points 11 months ago

Fuck this right wing cosplayer.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 11 months ago

... Has anybody rewritten California Uber Alles for this piece of shit, and covered it?

[-] Emergency3030@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

California depends on federal money and I bet the orange 🍊 man in the white house behind the scenes is pushing Newsom to be tough on immigrants or risk losing federal grants for California.

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 11 months ago

Some time ago, I read an analysis on why left-wing parties were allegedly more successful in Scandinavia than other parts of Europe. It claimed that, for all their pro-social domestic policy, they weren't as immigrant-friendly as many other left-wing parties. Supposedly, that approach helped undermined the narrative that "I have nothing, yet these immigrants come here to get stuff for free at my expense." By putting their own country's needs first, they won over voters that worried they were being screwed over.

I have no way to verify how accurate that analysis was, nor do I have any sense of how dated it might be, so I'll be sceptical, but the idea stuck with me. I can't really blame people for putting their own needs first, and I wonder how much that influences the popularity of right-wing parties all around.

Of course, health care should be a universal good anyway and the US system definitely needs fixing, but I can understand how the "freeloader immigrant" propaganda would work on people suffering from that system – misery breeds bigotry and all.

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago
[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

checks notes That should go over well with voters

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