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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 338 points 3 weeks ago

The three MPs will not receive their salaries during the suspension and will not be present during next week’s annual budget debate.

There we have it. They're making sure that Maori people won't have representation when taking away their rights is debated again.

[-] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 108 points 3 weeks ago

Save this example for the next time some chud tries to tell you colonization is a past event and not an ongoing process right this minute

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 106 points 3 weeks ago

This sort of thing always strikes me as odd.

There are agreed rules on language, some parliaments have dress code but besides penalties or fines a representative can be served with under no situation a representative can be barred from exercisizing their dutifully elected functions.

I have representatives in my national assembly with criminal charges that none the less exercise as they have been elected.

This is plainly stupid and abusive.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 45 points 3 weeks ago

I don't know about the NZ parliament, but in the UK parliament upon which it is based it absolutely possible for members to be thrown out of the chamber. It's not even that rare. Famously Dennis Skinner was kicked out for calling them Prime Minister David Cameron "Dodgy Dave" and refusing to retract it.

Are you quoting some rule or just your own expectation?

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 19 points 3 weeks ago

I'm in Portugal. I've seen direct insults exchanged between representatives, a clear violation of manners and language, and the representative was not removed from the chamber. Their word was removed, a sanction issued, but that was it. We have representatives with active criminal charges in place that were not removed.

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[-] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 232 points 3 weeks ago

This was five months ago. The MPs haka sparked national protest and a nine day march against the Treaty Principles Bill, which did not pass. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_Principles_Bill

[-] b3an@lemmy.world 153 points 3 weeks ago

Sounds like it worked, and now the conservatives are mad and trying to punish?

[-] Madrigal@lemmy.world 70 points 3 weeks ago

Pretty much. That and trying to distract people from the details of their budget, which will without doubt be all the usual crap you'd expect from conservatives.

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[-] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 188 points 3 weeks ago

I think that was amazingly awesome. The people saying there's a time and place, you're correct. This was the time and place. Take a stand, make noise, make people uncomfortable. Quiet compliance is what got us here in the first place.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 65 points 3 weeks ago

Also like, it's fucking Aoteroa. In colonial nations one must be prepared for indigenous members of their government to perform cultural acts of resistance when the colonist faction of the government gets up to some shit.

From the other side of the world I saw her actions powerful and warranted. Though I do come from a country with a history of far less reasonable displays of dissatisfaction in our legislature.

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[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 33 points 3 weeks ago

The people critizing her think Americans politics are the best model.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

American here and who the fuck are these insane people

[-] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 weeks ago

They are the locals. They are indigenous New Zealanders and they are doing something that is customary in their culture in the kind of situation they were in during that session.

The New Zealand lawmakers were trying to pass a bill that would have severely reduced the rights of the locals, and this reaction is part of how the local culture demands people to act.

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[-] Zenith@lemm.ee 27 points 3 weeks ago

Culture, in MY politics?? No, no, I need to pretend all people are the same and want the same things I do, if I have the context of culture 🤢 I might have to consider people have valid perspectives I don’t share!! /s if we do that here

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 181 points 3 weeks ago

Wait if I'm reading this right this punishment comes from something that happened 5 months ago and it will result in them not being allowed to participate in the budget debate? Will that's fucking Twisted isn't it? If it was really a punishment for an action why would it not happen sooner? Why would they wait until this critical budget debate to implement it? Seems like maybe it's just an excuse to stop these people from participating in the budget debate. Like an excuse to stop their constituents from being represented. This is blatantly anti-democratic.

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago

It’s racism so that the colonialist power structure can continue its genocide without dissent from the people it is targeting

[-] bufalo1973@lemm.ee 23 points 3 weeks ago

In Spain one congressman, Alberto Rodríguez Rodríguez, had his seat removed by a "judicial decision" in 2021 and once the elections passed, in 2024, and he didn't have the seat anymore, that "judicial decision" was reversed, saying that he had to be fined but he shouldn't have lost his seat.

Now everyone, let's sing: LAWFAREEEEEEEEEEE!

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[-] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 136 points 3 weeks ago

Pretty amazing, the NZ conservatives mount a major attack on Māori and are then intimidated by haka. Snowflakes.

[-] sircac@lemmy.world 125 points 3 weeks ago

This call for more hakas... 💪

[-] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 89 points 3 weeks ago

Hakas will continue until morale improves

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 weeks ago

My morale improved with the first one! .....there is room for further improvement though 🤔

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[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 35 points 3 weeks ago

Agreed. If that had been targeted at me, I would have crapped my pants.

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[-] orgrinrt@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Ah, at more or less frequent time spans I end up searching the internet for all these amazing ritual performances (forgive my ignorance, I am from North Europe so don’t really know what it is exactly or what it should be called) of the Māori.

I get so captured and enchanted by them, it’s so powerful but often also beautiful and somehow extremely sorrowful or whatever emotion the display is intended to signal (or at least ends up signaling to me as a complete ignorant foreigner), I always end up wondering that had Christianity not crusaded our lands and bloodily murdered and genocided our cultures, might we have something equally powerful and captivating to preserve? It’s not a far fetch because we do have a lot of remnants and first party findings on the old Norwegian and Danish and Swedish cultures of around the Northern European Iron Age for example, that had similar sort of rituals or even just musical tastes and conventions. Our peoples neighbored those, though were distinct and entirely different on most fronts, though a lot of people today fancy conflating us with the “Vikings”. We were their looting ground for the most part and any influence from their culture on ours would’ve been likely equally bloodily brought. But I digress.

Had the southerners not crusaded and killed most of us off, snuffed out the light of our culture, forced everyone brutally to follow whatever flavor of Christ each crusade was bringing, maybe I shouldn’t feel so amazed by the amazing cultures far away. But maybe we didn’t have anything as powerful in the first place, who knows at this point…

But these shows of force and unity are always so captivating, I end up bingeing videos of them for hours on end, even if I don’t really know what they are about and what each of them mean.

I love this. It’s so close to my heart somehow, feels so close to home, yet it’s a faraway thing.

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[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 96 points 3 weeks ago

Colonialism is alive and well in NZ.

[-] loki@piefed.social 35 points 3 weeks ago

It was clear the collective western governance doesn't give a shit about indigenous people when they facilitated, funded, supplied arms, and downplayed the palestinian genocide. Their "human rights" only extends to marketing themselves as moral civilized people, while making themselves rich and powerful comes first.

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[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago

So who can regale us on why the current coalition is running cover for colonialists in New Zealand. I thought that was usually a losing move there.

[-] Xcf456@lemmy.nz 25 points 3 weeks ago

We got the project 2025 test run when a three party far right coalition got elected in 2023. Most regressive, cruel and mean sprited government in a generation.

USA, NZ, Australia, Canada, UK and beyond. They all coordinate, they use the same consultants, the same messages, their AstroTurf political advocacy groups all share info and coordinate policy to make our lives worse and the rich richer. Tailored slightly for local conditions but the same overall goal.

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago

They did a dance and were suspended. Sounds like New Zealand parliament is channeling their inner magat.

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