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‘Doom: The Dark Ages’ DRM Is Locking Out Linux Users Who Bought the Game (www.404media.co)
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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 122 points 1 month ago

Just another reason to wait long after release to buy a game. Denuvo charges games companies to administer the DRM infrastructure and most developers will strip it out of their games after it's been out for a while.

Buying games on launch is one of the most anti-customer experiences you can get. And that's saying something in our wonderful capitalist economy

[-] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 89 points 1 month ago

Buying a game post-launch:

  • Better prices; often on sale.
  • Fixed and patched up.
  • Extra content often included.
  • DRM often removed.

No brainer, imo.

[-] Agrivar@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

You forgot a bonus point:

  • Hardware requirements are now easier/cheaper to meet/exceed.
[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago

Pirating single player games is unfortunately the way to go, considering you BUY a single player game and STILL get fucked on it.

[-] CybranM@feddit.nu 13 points 1 month ago

Disagree, like yesman (lol) said it's best to wait. I'm not that worried about playing games day one but I still want to sort the Devs, after they've patched out the bugs and removed DRM preferably

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If only buying games actually supported devs anymore. Devs seem to get fired for any reason nowadays.

Bad game? Fired. Good game? Also fired. Popular game that people loved? Believe it or not, also fired. Develop a game only for the company to change direction and the game gets cancelled? Absolutely fired.

You'd think these publishers would value talent as much as their intellectual property but they seem to not care anymore for either.

[-] pycorax@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Plenty of singleplayer games are from indies, those more or less support the developer.

[-] Sebastrion@leminal.space 8 points 1 month ago

I'm sure most pirates don't sit here and want a crack for a 10-20€ Indie Game. But a 80€ Game (sometimes even with additional microtransaktions like skins etc.) Yeah I see that.

[-] GriffinClaw@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

^ This is me.

[-] Agrivar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Any indie devs out there using Denuvo?

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[-] piefood@feddit.online 11 points 1 month ago

Patient gamers represent! The older I get, the less I care about FOMO. The less I care about FOMO, the happier I am. It's a beautiful cycle.

/me goes back to playing snes games on an emulator

[-] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah, there's so many good games and so little time, I don't understand how anyone wouldn't have a big backlog anyway.

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[-] Sabin10@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

They also typically go on really good sales right around the time denuvo gets removed.

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 84 points 1 month ago

Refund and wait for a crack. Fuck Denuvo and fuck Bethesda for using them

[-] warm@kbin.earth 70 points 1 month ago

You get what you pay for. You buy denuvo, you get denuvo.

[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 46 points 1 month ago

Yet more evidence that the smartest thing you can do if the game comes from a AAA studio is hold off on buying it for 6-12 months.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

If the game comes with Denuvo, never, ever buy it.

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[-] missingno@fedia.io 35 points 1 month ago

This is why native support still matters. Anything not supported can pull the rug out from under you at any time.

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago

Except for when glibc updates and breaks games with native support (but not the ones running through a compatibility layer). Although that definitely happens way less than devs purposefully pushing changes that break on Linux.

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[-] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah, games through Proton are a bit like containerized apps, you get everything you need to run them in the Proton package.

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[-] giacomo@lemm.ee 29 points 1 month ago

anti-consumer feature is anti-consumer. more news at 11

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 28 points 1 month ago

Looks like sailing is back on the menu, boys!

[-] ElectroLisa@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 month ago

It's not, newest Doom has Denuvo

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 22 points 1 month ago

We'll get it, comrade.

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Sailing is back on the menu once Empress decides, I guess? Is Empress still the only one cracking Denuvo, or has the Denuvo Cracking scene changed much in the last 5-10 years? I don't really keep up with it much.

[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Empress is barely active anymore, if at all. Look at the last few dozen DRM-enabled games released in the last few years and I don't think a single one was cracked. There was Dragon's Dogma 2, but it turned out that was just a leaked pre-launch dev build and its performance was awful (because the game has shit performance that was even worse at launch than it is now).

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[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago

Gonna be honest, if Dark Ages represents the future of Doom: Doom died with Eternal. I've played probably 75% of the game and it's enough to turn me off of every future title.

[-] hobbsc@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 month ago

doom past doom 2 never felt like doom anyhow.

[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Hard disagree. Doom Eternal was a rhythm game disguised as an FPS and I hated it. It's crazy to me how widely acclaimed it was even over Doom 2016, which I thought was amazing. I'm glad they shifted back towards a more grounded FPS style that doesn't force you to juggle your entire weapon arsenal nonstop the entire game.

[-] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I really enjoyed 2016, couldn't get into Eternal though. I'm definitely going to hold off on this new one until it's been out longer and goes on sale, unless it gets standing ovations. Then, if I don't like it I haven't lost much.

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[-] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago

Doom died with Ethernal. Dark Ages is just more of that decline.

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[-] slumberlust@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

What don't you like about it?

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[-] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

That probably explains all of the crashes reported by windows users too. ID Software what happened? You were supposed to be the chosen one.

[-] Turturtley@aussie.zone 36 points 1 month ago

Owned by zenimax, owned by microsoft. Same owners of activision blizzard. Shafted Mick Gordon. So this is kinda 100% as expected.

[-] Kraiden@kbin.earth 16 points 1 month ago

I get paid today and was gonna pick this up tonight... Guess it's back to Oblivion then!

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[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm more and more convinced that Doom 2016 was the peak. Eternal had that one song that kicked ass but that was mostly it.

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Well cool, now I know not to pick up the game yet.

[-] zecg@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

While it has Denuvo it can get fucked, they'll remove it in a few years, I'm a very patient gamer with a family group that has 1.5k games in library.

[-] alehel@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

I never buy/install games with Denuvo. Guess it will be a while before I'm playing this.

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