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For instance, a foot...is basically a foot length. So there's this foot-measuring waddle some people do walking literally heel-to-toe to get a general sense of the space. An inch is kinda a finger width, etc (they're all not perfect by any sense).

I've decided to just take the plunge and basically re-learn all my measurement systems because I'm seeing less and less of those being used. I started with just memorizing all the conversions but that's literally just adding another step. Everything I own basically has settings to switch or show both measurements (like tape measures) so I'm just going to stop using Fahrenheit and the United states "Customary System" all together.

Any tips or things you're taught or pick up on? There's a funny primary school poem for conversion of customary liquid measurements,

Land of Gallon

Introducing capacity measurement to learners can be challenging. To make this topic more accessible and memorable, we can integrate creative and interactive activities into our teaching approach. Using storytelling, we can transform the sometimes daunting task of learning measurement conversions into a whimsical tale.

  • In the Land of Gallon, there were four giant Queens.
  • Each Queen had a Prince and a Princess.
  • Each Prince and Princess had two children.
  • The two children were twins, and they were eight years old.

Once students are familiar with the story be sure they see the connection between the story characters and the customary units of capacity measurement. If necessary, label the story pieces with their corresponding units of measure: queen = quart, prince/princess = pint, children = cups, 8 years old = 8 fluid ounces. You can reduce the number of customary units in the story based on student readiness. link

tl;dr looking for anything to remember the hierarchy and memorizing the metric and Celsius measurement system, sometimes explained in schooling or local sayings. (if I had an example for those systems I would give one lol).

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[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For temperature:

Water freezes at 0, boils at 100. Room temperature 20 degrees Celsius. Normal body temp 37 degrees.

Trivia of minus 40 Fahrenheit being the same as minus 40 Celsius.

Height and weight are usually still thought of in imperial (canadian here), so I think of myself as 6'2", instead of 188 cm.

Volumes and lengths and weights are related. One cubic cm is one mL of liquid. One cubic centimeter of water weighs one gram. One thousand mL of water makes one Liter, which weighs one kilogram.

2.205 ponds makes one kilogram.

Shifting between miles and km is a pain in the ass, given the 1.6 km per mile.

[-] SpiderShoeCult@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

1 mL (or cubic centimeter) of water weighs 1g, not 1 mg. 1 mg would be 1 microliter of water, or one millionth of a liter.

[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yes! My bad, will edit.

[-] quediuspayu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

1 calorie is the heat required to increase the temperature of 1 ml of water by 1 degree

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[-] Gastel@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

A person who buys some material, Thinks to themselves managerial, I could use grams or litres, Maybe even amps or square meters, At least it isn't Imperial.

[-] techwooded@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Fellow American convert to the metric system. Converting, in my opinion, won't get you very far in actually understanding the measurements. To this day, the conversion rate is something I have to dig through my memory for.

For me what helped with the temperature scale was breaking it into chunks based on what I would wear, 10°-15° would be a pullover sweatshirt, 15°-20° a track jacket, etc, which got me to stop focusing so much on the conversion. Eventually you just get a sense of these things, I think that most people can only really feel a difference in air temperature of about 1°C. 0° being the freezing point cutoff is super helpful for judging things like potential road conditions if it's wet.

For distances I first got the sense of how far things were in kilometers by being a runner and knowing distances around my neighborhood as to how they lined up with running a 5k, 10k, etc. For meters, at my height and gait, my stride length is about a meter long. A little bit on the shorter side of things, but it still helped me get an idea as to what a meter looked like in physical space, even if it's off a bit. Centimeters and millimeters are a different story. Hard to find perfect analogs in the world, but you'll find something eventually. I think for example long grain rice can be ~1 cm in length for example.

The biggest lesson in my own journey and seeing a lot of people online talk about trying to do the conversion is that people get overly concerned with precision when first making the switch. If you actually think about most of our daily interactions with measurements, they're much more approximate. For example, the difference between whether it's 71°F or 73°F is rarely pointed out. The temperature is just "in the low 70s". We say that something is "about 20 miles away" which is almost an implicit 7-8 mile range. I would guess 80% of the time, this is how we interact with the units we use, so focus on that. No one is going to get upset if they ask the temperature and you're off by a few degrees C.

In terms of mnemonics like US kids get in school for some of these things, everything in the metric system is a multiple of 10 from everything else, which is what makes it great. Also remember that at room temperature, water's density is 1 g/mL, so if one of capacity or weight is easier to visualize for you, it's a shortcut to the other. Standard disposable water bottle in the US is 500 mL or half a kilogram of water.

If only metric time had caught on too....

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Good information, I've been doing the temperature thing more and more but for cooking I haven't switched (gonna have to refigure the food safety guidelines so I'm not putting myself in danger on that one).

I think you've convinced me to officially do a marathon, that seems like a great and healthy way to consider the larger distances and wrap my head around it!

[-] paequ2@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

The biggest lesson in my own journey and seeing a lot of people online talk about trying to do the conversion is that people get overly concerned with precision when first making the switch.

YES! I think this is because they're converting back to imperial units. You can always tell when someone was thinking in imperial because the metric units are like 17.4C or 8.12mm or 98.7km/h. For sure, things don't need to be that precise. When I convert either way I always convert to a nice number. 100 km/h -> 60mi/h

It's just like translating language, you don't translate the literal words of a sentence, you translate the overall idea.

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[-] Melobol@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A small trick is to measure your own hand. How big is your fingers spread all the way? That will always be a good quick measure. Like this: 🤙and 🤘.

And for the hierarchy:
Kilo means 1000 of something
Centi means 1/100.
Mili means 1/1000.

kilo + meter = 1000 meter. centi + liter = is a cube of water that measures ~~1 cm all around, that actually 1/100 of a liter. And 1/100 of a kilograms if it is water.~~
Edit: 1cm cube is a mililiter, because 10x10x10 its 3dimensional as Moody pointed out.

[-] moody@lemmings.world 6 points 1 day ago

A 1cm cube is 1ml and not 1cl.

One litre is a 10x10x10cm cube.

[-] Melobol@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks for correcting me. Messed that up. Have an excuse but don't worth mentioning it :D

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Good idea with the hands, I kinda already had this with the other system (different methods though) so now I gotta do the new ones and sear that into my brain. I've always been interested in a tattoo like the myth busters guy with a ruler on his forearm but I like the hang-ten one and seems cheaper/less painful.

[-] donuts@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

~~We don't really need any of those mnemonics because it's a perfect system~~

More seriously there is the "King Henry Died, Drinking Chocolate Milk" for the Kilo (1000) Hecto (100) Deca (10), Deci (0.1) Centi (0.01) Milli (0.001), but that doesn't really help with measuring on the spot, aside from being able to get the prefix right.

There's an average step being 1 meter, but thats less useful for people with shorter legs unless they want to join the ministry of silly walks.

One that I use often is converting meters per second to kilometers per hour. Because 1 meter per second is 3600 meters per hour or 3.6 kilometers per hour, you can actually skip the multiply by 3600 and then divide by 1000 and just multiply by 3.6.

But aside from time conversions, there isn't really anything else that can help because it's just moving the decimal.

Slightly related, you can tell how far away lightning is by listening for the thunder and counting the seconds. Sound travels at 346 m/s so every 3 seconds is roughly 1 kilometer away. But I suppose you can do the same for miles and count to 5.

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Ty for the Mnemonic, definitely something I was looking for and even responded to someone else with the musical treble clef one. The thunder one will definitely help and something that can be passed onto kids (everyone basically knows the miles one). I'm gonna have to start compiling a list because all of you are awesome and there's a lot of information on here.

Just wish signs in the states were posted with KPH as well but that's extremely rare, I still associate maps with mileage and arrivals based on MPH so will be harder to transition that then anything else I imagine (120 miles away so about 2 hours on a hwy going 60 mph which is average for states).

[-] ebc@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Well something about 200 kms away will take 2 hours to get there on the highway going 100 km/h...

It's not as neat as 1 mile = 1 minute at 60mph, but it's still pretty easy to do the mental math.

[-] solrize@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

That thing about the queen and the princes etc. is silly and just gets in the way. Don't those people have anything better to do?

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

It could be useful at times, in my experience it's just two people trying to remember this strange ass poem and end up having to look it up anyways.

[-] solrize@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

You mean the pint's a pound poem? It's not even right, you know. A pint of water weighs about 1.04 lb.

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

didn't know that one, was referring to the Land of Gallon one. Get to prince and princesses then everything would get fuzzy, recently acquired a hot-plate thing with conversions on it so remembered even less of it till I looked it up again.

[-] solrize@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

The land of gallon thing is ridiculous imho.

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

Is there a temperature where a pint is a pound? Maybe near zero where it does wonky things?

[-] kurikai@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Get ruler. Hold your arm out 90degrees, Measure from the tip of your finger 1 metreacross your body, and rember where that Metre ends on your body. Then you always have a reference for 1metre

[-] d00ery@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I was taught this to measure electrical cable. For me it's from my left shoulder bone to my right finger tips (or the right shoulder to left finger tips)

[-] Knaegten@feddit.dk 4 points 1 day ago

Celsius:

0 is the phase transitiom temperature for water between solid and liquid under normal atmospheric pressure. 100 is the phase transition temperature between liquid and gas under normal atmospheric pressure.

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[-] nixcamic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Man you got some giant feet and sausage fingers lol

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm in Canada, and learning French in school actually helped me with fractional measurements since French is based on Latin.

Cent is 100 in French, so 1/100 meters is a centimeter

Mille is 1000 in French, so 1/1000 meters is a millimeter

Dix is 10 in French, so 1/10 meters is a decimeter (this is last because it's not super helpful since you never see deci- units in the wild outside of niche applications)

And for the powers of 10, we only really talked about kilo (1000) in school, but I was interested in computers since I was a child so I figured out mega, giga, terra, etc fairly early on.

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago

It's weird i know my measurement in both metric and imperial because when I was a child i learnt to play lawn bowls and all the old people measured everything in inches feet and yards, then when I became a mechanic there's the three spanner sets so I can do all those.

As for tips, I worked out my own pace count for 100 meters, and at my old workshop we had meter increments on the floor so you could work out what kinda goofy arse step you need to take for 1 meter.

Temperature obviously 0 is frozen water 100 boiling anything over 40 is damn hot outside but that one varies for person to person.

[-] hinterlufer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

For length, for an average male one meter is about one large step with extended legs (useful for distances), or the distance between e.g. the left side of your torso to the end of the extended right hand (useful for estimating the length of rope or smth).

For weight, it might be useful that 1 liter (that's 1 dm3 but noone uses that except sometimes in scientific literature) is almost exactly 1 kg, and a typical cup fits 0.25 liter. A shot of alcohol is either 20 or 40 milliliters (0.02 or 0.04 liter) depending on where you are and what you order.

For conversions you just need to remember the base unit (e.g. meter and grams/kilograms) and the decimal prefixes. But you really only need milli (1/1000), centi (1/100) and kilo (1000) in day to day life. Then you simply shift the decimal.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 4 points 1 day ago

Meter was easiest for me because it's essentially a yard (when eyeballing).

Liters are easy because the soft drink industry picked up on it decades ago as a way to get people to drink more soda. You'd buy cans and 6-packs, but nobody bought a gallon of soda. But they would, it turns out, buy a liter of soda, and as we got more obese as a nation, 2 liters. Liters of consumer drinks are really common, and so easy to visualize.

[-] paequ2@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

yard

Except in US handegg, do people still use yards? It sounds old-timey to me now. Normally, I either hear people talk in feet or miles, but never yards. Even in school (California), I vaguely remember hearing "X yard dash" when I was a little kid, but that definitely changed to "X meter dash" as I got older.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

Huh. I don't really hear any units of length anymore, now that I think about it. Even the doctor measures my height in inches, not feet+inches.

I honestly don't know. I don't hear "meters" used at all, but the first thing that comes to mind about "yards" is the 2000 movie The Whole Nine Yards.

US football still uses yards, doesn't it? I don't watch football either. But I just checked a random football stats website, and it still uses yards to measure pro football stats, so... yes, I guess. A lot of Americans still uses "yards."

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

I was confused on the "cup" part because I wasn't sure if you meant like a typical drinking glass or the actual cup-customary measurement until I looked at it (another reason i dislike the measurement system...a cup of coffee is so damn vague at times). I'll definitely remember the torso one.

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