Here we get 3 cents for every bottle. I don't think I'll be buying a PS5 anytime soon.
Seriously, if you got a bunch for every four bottles around here it'd take a couple of years and a shoe change to find enough of them to fund a PS5
Government should increase the buy-back price even if it means increasing the initial costs. At least they'll return it. I think glass and aluminium are still better than plastic, unless ofcourse, profit and comfort. Population is still the ultimate cause of all, humans don't understand that Earth can't handle it.
Reusable glass bottles have their own issues, especially emissions from logistics if they are transported for longer distances.
Cleaning reusable bottles is energy intensive and uses a lot of water and chemicals. Melting and recycling glass is certainly more resource intensive than doing the same with plastics.
The best solutions to reduce resource intensity is local production and consumers bringing their own containers, going for dried instead of canned when it comes to fruits, beans and the like...
The chances of first-worlders putting up with packaging and preserved food habits that are essentially post-collapse "The Last of Us" levels of mild inconvenience: about -100% if such a ratio is possible.
"Ya'll telling me I gotta feed mah kids dried beans? How da fuck they gonna eat dried beans? they too crunchy!" will be the viral soundbite from a Kansas parking lot.
Capital won't allow change until it can no longer bleed a dime in it's present state. We're living under a locust plague and we've called it the modern world.
Glass Bottles are way too heavy and fragile.
But refill stations where you can refill your metal bottle and pay per litre would be a nice idea.
I like the ones that have a counter showing how many plastic bottles have been saved by refilling at the station
I'm fond of the Phand.
Nah. Fuck the Pfand system. I don't like being fined for a crime I haven't committed (not recycling the bottle) with the excuse of "you'll get your fine back when you return the bottle"
Ban plastic for consumables, glass and cardboard forever!!!
Glass bottles aren’t a free win. Glass is very heavy to transport and extremely energy-intensive to manufacture. It made sense back when people hardly drank any soda. It still makes sense for things like condiments (soy sauce, vinegar, etc) and alcoholic drinks but it doesn’t make any sense for everyday drinks like water or soda.
We should be investing in better municipal water treatment facilities so that tap water doesn’t taste awful. Where I live the tap water is horrible but I’ve visited places where the tap water tastes perfectly clean and pleasant. If we had universally tasty tap water then people would stop buying plastic water bottles.
As for soda, I could see glass bottles being excellent if we could bring consumption down to a reasonable level. Many people guzzle soda as if it were water which is both terrible for their health and the environment.
Where glass wins big is in reusability. We need to get people to refill/reuse their glass bottles rather than recycling them.
Yes, it’s just hard to do, especially for people without a car. Hauling a large number of heavy glass bottles to the grocery store on public transit is quite a burden!
That's great, now how?
Do you think if this message alone spread (it already has) that anyone is going to take it seriously? The top polluters and the ones deciding what our packaging is like are the most wealthy corporations on Earth and they are the ones doing the most climate damage, and the ones who control the narrative and our politics.
Do you think "ban plastics" will ever be a populist political talking point in these conditions? Do you think it would gain momentum?
Or are we looking at it wrong? What if more of us targeted the system that is sustaining climate destruction with an actual populist idea? What if we started wresting control and money away from the companies filling our sea with plastic?
Do you want to spread a message of lasting change? Start spreading "pro family, pro children" messages like the need for social help as millions become jobless as capital starts digesting itself in its current late-stage. You want to see plastics away? (No we're never seeing an end to cardboard, that's unrealistic to push for.) Then start advocating for Universal Basic Income and other measures that put control back in the hands of the people.
China did it, they limit the use of plastics in consumer products and have a standard for rigorous recycling and reuse
All that work collecting garbage to buy garbage.
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