Great job!!
Now do it for Rings of Power.
This is why you wait to see if the series is going to get an ending before starting it.
Meh
They screwed it up completely within the first 5 minutes of the first episode so not a big deal for anyone who's actually read the books.
Fuck's sake, it had just started to properly settle down and get good
They took forever to build out the characters and the story. Good production for a series, but had the worst pacing. Sadly, their build up now leaves you hanging. I am not sure why Amazon is cancelling their series, without proper finales. I am guessing this has to do with overspending on Bond.
Similar to Netflix's approach, they most likely found that viewership drops sharply after the first 2 or 3 seasons, so more money to be made elsewhere.
But similar to Netflix, they'll find that people aren't willing to give things a chance and will associate all your original productions with crap, if you keep doing it.
Also true, but that's not what shareholders and executives care about. They just want the next quarterly profits to go up to get their payouts
So will Prime use this freed up budget to fund some decent programming, or will they just throw it at another big budget Bezos money pit project like the Lord of The Rings tv show and that awful Citadel tv universe?
My prediction: This is being sacrificed to pay for a Bond 007 tentpole show that won’t be any good.
Meanwhile Amazon owns the rights to Stargate and does nothing with it.
I have a sneaking suspicion amazon picked up wheel of time only because they wanted to fill a high fantasy slot in the portfolio. Now they have rings of power with built in IP recognition, typical executive brain will put focus there instead.
Murderbot
It's not ... A great show?
But it's fucking cheap (small cast, limited sets so far), and it's trying to be charming.
It's the streaming equivalent of comfort food.
We need more content like this to keep streams full, then we have a few prestige shows like andor or whatever.
What we have now is crap writing burning prestige money (twot/LOTR-trop) and leaving us with unwatchable crap.
It could be better. I read the books and they’re rushing through the story at 90 miles an hour. And they are leaning into everything like it’s all quirky comedy which does a disservice to the source material. The characters are supposed to be characters, not caricatures. You should to care about what happens to these people but in the series they so far feel disposable. They’re also overdoing the voiceovers and on screen displays to the point of annoyance. The “rise and fall of sanctuary moon” inserts are a hoot though.
Yeah, the pace is stupid, the problem is it's 22 minute shows, and I think they're trying to finish in less than 10 episodes.
For 22m shows they should do 18-20 er season, but the format generally sucks for anything except comedy.
But I was optimistic because the short length also means it doesn't have to be burdened by all the overwhelming pretense of the heavier stuff, it can be chill about it.
That's an apple show what does any of this have to do with anything
I'm making a point that we need more casual, cheap stuff like this to fill in viewing hours, with a few prestige shows for the high end.
Twot was trying to be prestige and ended up a complete disaster, while starving other good shows of that cash.
The boys is also fairly cheap in comparison (getting more expensive obviously as time goes on, but nowhere near twot/trop).
Tech companies had so much money they started throwing money at shit, that was the problem.
Naw, it will be another Meliana Trump documentary
Whelp, at least I can finally cancel my prime subscription.
As someone who never read the books, I found the TV show cluttered. Part of that was watching it non-binge style I’m sure.
Should I give this another try? Even though there won’t be an “ending..”
The show has a completely different tone and pacing from the books. The books are much closer to LotR (particularly the first one which is basically just alt. Fellowship) and spend a lot of time with the characters traveling and getting to know each other and the lore of the world. There's plenty of bickering, but the characters all like each other and get along decently. The show opted to cut most of the parts where you learn what's going on to instead focus on manufactured drama.
They also just changed things in really confusing ways like making Mat's parents deadbeats, among other things. Some of the plot restructuring makes sense given how much stuff there is to adapt. I don't think anyone reasonable can expect any book adaptation to keep 100% faithful unless it's getting crazy funding as a TV series. That said they just really took a knife to things.
Idk, as someone who loves the books despite their issues I wasn't particularly enamoured with the show. Some people liked it though.
If the world seemed interesting I'd recommend the audiobooks. Love Michael Kramer and Kate Reading.
Making Mat's parents deadbeats was just crazy to me.
THAT'S your line?
Not Perrin having and killing his wife? Not a total cut of Gaul? Not Aviendha and Elayne for... some reason? Not Perrin straight up actually killing geofram bornehald? Not moraine killing the shit out of seanchan at falme definitely breaking the 3 oaths?
Etc etc.
It was the wild West.
Heh. I forgot about Perrin killing his wife. Also fucking bonkers. I only watched season one, which was a train wreck.
Watch the season 2 finale, just the finale. you'll love it.
Oh god. Okay. I'll do it. For the lolz
I only watched the first season (big fan of the books as a kid). Imo, it is not worth your time. They took out what makes WoT special and produced some extremely generic, bland fantasy.
As someone who read the books, the highlight of the show is S3E4 where they (more or less) faithfully recreated one of the best sequences in fantasy on screen, and it was incredible.
Everything around it was soap opera romantasy. 90% of the characters had any meaningful personalities sanded off, entire arcs from the plot were tossed out the window in favor of glorified fan fiction, and as you noted the final product was just a mess in terms of trying to follow along even for people who didn't care about faithfulness of the adaptation. I won't mourn it being gone; maybe we'll get a decent animated adaptation in 10 years.
Yeah I started it a couple times but kept losing track of the goal/stakes in the story. Really wanted to like it.
Fuck.
After 3 seasons they have to give people a pay bump so I'm mot surprised
Hopefully another company will step in.
Didn’t read the books but found it an ok watch which was obv not enough for a marquee show.
A long time I tried to read the books; the first ne was great, and probably also the second and third, but after a while it got extremely drawn out and the books just kept getting longer and longer. I had hoped the TV show could mitigatre that and reduce itself to what is no doubt an intriguing story. How were the first two seasons?
I know this is absolutely insane to say when we're talking about books that are 1,000 pages long, but book 6 is where the series really becomes levels up into something incredible. I enjoyed it a lot before then, but if you can get that far, it's just amazing.
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