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[-] rhadamanth_nemes@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

I agree with most others in here, they ran roughshod over major character traits and plot points for no discernable reason. Wasted an episode of the first season on some random Warder.

That said, the biggest crime was the 8 or 9 out of 10 emotion and yelling in basically every scene. Wheel of Time can definitely drag on, so maybe they were trying to spice things up? Idk, it was weird.

At least this Rand fucks, though.

[-] 1stQ@feddit.org 0 points 5 hours ago

Whelp, at least I can finally cancel my prime subscription.

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 21 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

If you want the loyal fans to watch it, stop fucking it up! Keep the source material, and let your cooky ass writers write their own shit.

Perrin having and killing his wife?

A total cut of Gaul?

Aviendha and Elayne for... some reason?

Perrin straight up actually killing geofram bornehald? Which is a WHOLE plot point by the way.

Moraine killing the shit out of seanchan at falme definitely breaking the 3 oaths?

It goes on and on. So much questionable decision making.

[-] Stamau123@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

It's like the Witcher. People aren't going to respect your OC by fucking up a recognizable name, they will just find you incompetent

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago

Glad they finally put a nail on that one. You got to stop funding projects made by people who don't even like the source material.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Bond and Dexter improved by straying from the source material (up to a point). Bourne trilogy is better for ignoring the disguise element.

But in general you are correct.

[-] anonymouse2@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

I think to know where to deviate from source requires a thorough understanding of and appreciation for it first.

[-] trk@aussie.zone 14 points 12 hours ago

I hated it from the first episode.

They had amazing material to work with, all they had to do was adapt it to TV.

A group of amateurs made an awesome Wheel Of Time episode with a budget of about $5 and an afternoon of shooting. Amazon should have just given them the money to do it.

[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago
[-] trk@aussie.zone 3 points 10 hours ago
[-] oyzmo@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Wow, that's good! Actually better than the Amazon one

[-] _lilith@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

I could never get past Loial not having expressive ears. Like 90% of Ogier emotion is described by the positioning or movement of their long ass ears

[-] trk@aussie.zone 5 points 10 hours ago

Or the fact people from Two Rivers are often identified by their physical look and way they speak, but the TV series starts out with every person from their tiny isolated village being ethnically diverse.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 14 points 13 hours ago

This is why you wait to see if the series is going to get an ending before starting it.

[-] BarticusR@lemm.ee 5 points 5 hours ago

Everybody waits to see if it gets an ending...nobody watches...cancelled after first series.

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago

Meh

They screwed it up completely within the first 5 minutes of the first episode so not a big deal for anyone who's actually read the books.

[-] mriswith@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Even people who hadn't read the books, realized how rushed things were in some cases, and then dragged out filler in others.

It was obvious they had the same issue as several other recent adaptations: The showrunner wants to make original content, and think it's so good that people wont care that it differs from the source or even changes the story and characters.

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 15 hours ago

Great job!!

Now do it for Rings of Power.

[-] ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 17 hours ago

I’m surprised it lasted 3 seasons to be honest. I hated it.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 21 points 17 hours ago

I couldn't make it past the first episode.

[-] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 9 points 14 hours ago

I made it through the first season, but just barely, and I didn't go back.

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[-] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 52 points 18 hours ago

The fate of most shows nowadays. Greedy companies don’t give a shit about telling a good story or giving it a proper ending.

All they care about is number go up.

Stop giving them your money and attention.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 points 14 hours ago

I'd like to see creators who own their rights put in contracts that the story must be told in full, and that whatever pacing is decided on (1 season per book for example) needs to be maintained. I know most studios would walk away, but I'd love for someone to have the balls to tell them that

You want to make my 10 book series into a TV show? Put your money where your mouth is and pony up 10 seasons worth

[-] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

I just want to see creatives actually owning their creations in the future and not being slowly choked out by corporations and their greed.

“It you don’t sign over everything, we’ll just use Ai to rip you off and get away with it.”

Honestly I don’t see actors in the future owning their own likeness. “Want to be an actor? Well we’ll own your face and voice forever”

[-] Zexks@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

They'll continue to own their likeness'. Studios just won't hire them.

[-] Rodneyck@lemm.ee 17 points 15 hours ago

They took forever to build out the characters and the story. Good production for a series, but had the worst pacing. Sadly, their build up now leaves you hanging. I am not sure why Amazon is cancelling their series, without proper finales. I am guessing this has to do with overspending on Bond.

[-] SGG@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

Similar to Netflix's approach, they most likely found that viewership drops sharply after the first 2 or 3 seasons, so more money to be made elsewhere.

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 11 points 13 hours ago

But similar to Netflix, they'll find that people aren't willing to give things a chance and will associate all your original productions with crap, if you keep doing it.

[-] SGG@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

Also true, but that's not what shareholders and executives care about. They just want the next quarterly profits to go up to get their payouts

[-] TIN@feddit.uk 29 points 18 hours ago

Fuck's sake, it had just started to properly settle down and get good

[-] Jhuskindle@lemmy.world 1 points 57 minutes ago

It legit was getting good. The first season was rough. I loved the books so I'll watch it. Later episodes were getting better.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 24 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

So will Prime use this freed up budget to fund some decent programming, or will they just throw it at another big budget Bezos money pit project like the Lord of The Rings tv show and that awful Citadel tv universe?

My prediction: This is being sacrificed to pay for a Bond 007 tentpole show that won’t be any good.

Meanwhile Amazon owns the rights to Stargate and does nothing with it.

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I have a sneaking suspicion amazon picked up wheel of time only because they wanted to fill a high fantasy slot in the portfolio. Now they have rings of power with built in IP recognition, typical executive brain will put focus there instead.

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[-] Binky@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 18 hours ago

As someone who never read the books, I found the TV show cluttered. Part of that was watching it non-binge style I’m sure.

Should I give this another try? Even though there won’t be an “ending..”

[-] sxt@lemmy.world 22 points 17 hours ago

The show has a completely different tone and pacing from the books. The books are much closer to LotR (particularly the first one which is basically just alt. Fellowship) and spend a lot of time with the characters traveling and getting to know each other and the lore of the world. There's plenty of bickering, but the characters all like each other and get along decently. The show opted to cut most of the parts where you learn what's going on to instead focus on manufactured drama.

They also just changed things in really confusing ways like making Mat's parents deadbeats, among other things. Some of the plot restructuring makes sense given how much stuff there is to adapt. I don't think anyone reasonable can expect any book adaptation to keep 100% faithful unless it's getting crazy funding as a TV series. That said they just really took a knife to things.

Idk, as someone who loves the books despite their issues I wasn't particularly enamoured with the show. Some people liked it though.

If the world seemed interesting I'd recommend the audiobooks. Love Michael Kramer and Kate Reading.

[-] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 4 points 14 hours ago

Making Mat's parents deadbeats was just crazy to me.

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago

THAT'S your line?

Not Perrin having and killing his wife? Not a total cut of Gaul? Not Aviendha and Elayne for... some reason? Not Perrin straight up actually killing geofram bornehald? Not moraine killing the shit out of seanchan at falme definitely breaking the 3 oaths?

Etc etc.

It was the wild West.

[-] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 hours ago

Heh. I forgot about Perrin killing his wife. Also fucking bonkers. I only watched season one, which was a train wreck.

[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

Watch the season 2 finale, just the finale. you'll love it.

[-] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

Oh god. Okay. I'll do it. For the lolz

[-] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 18 points 18 hours ago

I only watched the first season (big fan of the books as a kid). Imo, it is not worth your time. They took out what makes WoT special and produced some extremely generic, bland fantasy.

[-] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 17 hours ago

Not nearly enough tugging of braids :d

[-] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 8 points 17 hours ago

As someone who read the books, the highlight of the show is S3E4 where they (more or less) faithfully recreated one of the best sequences in fantasy on screen, and it was incredible.

Everything around it was soap opera romantasy. 90% of the characters had any meaningful personalities sanded off, entire arcs from the plot were tossed out the window in favor of glorified fan fiction, and as you noted the final product was just a mess in terms of trying to follow along even for people who didn't care about faithfulness of the adaptation. I won't mourn it being gone; maybe we'll get a decent animated adaptation in 10 years.

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[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 13 points 17 hours ago

After 3 seasons they have to give people a pay bump so I'm mot surprised

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 17 points 18 hours ago
[-] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 11 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

On the bright side at least we know how to pronounce Egwene now

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