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[-] moseschrute@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago

Suddenly this makes way more sense

[-] FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 41 points 1 week ago

I can hear this picture

[-] isaaclyman@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I think we all know where this is going.

  1. The Brainchip is trendy in Silicon Valley but doesn’t do much yet. The company says cyber-superintelligence will be available in a year, tops. Investors are pouring billions into it. Everyone says you need to hop on the trend now or you’ll be obsolete in six months.
  2. It’s been two years. The Brainchip still struggles to control a mouse or search Google. Everyone’s lost interest in building apps for it. Many users are reporting severe migraines, but the company says there’s nothing to worry about.
  3. The Brainchip pipes three unskippable ads directly to your optic nerve every time you go to the bathroom. Notifications ping your brain all day long. You can get it removed if you’ve got $80k to burn, but there’s a high risk of postoperative stroke.

Yeah, no, I’m not putting anything in my brain that isn’t open-source from end to end. And even then probably nah.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

the only way, and I mean the ONLY way I'll put hardware in my brain is if I have resurrection level support like in Altered Carbon.

the fear of losing my outward identity over the ability to live forever is worth losing.

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[-] muhyb@programming.dev 52 points 2 weeks ago

Will we also get a control valve back on our heads?

[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes, but it belongs to Gaben. Don't touch it.

[-] xavier666@lemm.ee 39 points 1 week ago

HL3 is going to be launched with Valve's brain chip.

They don't even have to make the game. The chip will convince you that you have already played the game and it's the best game ever.

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[-] shaquilleoatmeal@lemm.ee 37 points 1 week ago

He’ll only be able to make the first prototype, and then a second. He will never make it to 3.

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[-] tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 week ago

Not advocating for our against but 2 thoughts here:

1: Gabe isn't Musk. Yes money etc but don't immediately jump there without other malfeasance please. Caution absolutely but don't ascribe one rich assholes shit to another.

2: He probably has hard data on accessibility... Possibly more than nearly anyone else. There's a HUGE portion of the population that can't use "traditional" controllers or other input devices. And that's not even going into the medical realm.

Could game Gabe be starting his villain phase? Sure! But until more negative details come out I'm just hoping this is investments he'd use toward a new steam controller.

[-] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 week ago

Yeah, if we were putting billionaires against the wall, GabeN would probably be near the end of the line.

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[-] nickhammes@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

You don't get to be a billionaire without some malfeasance.

And even if you don't assume actively malicious intent like you should with Musk, there's a lot of potential danger with technology like this, and if you don't stand a lot to gain, and have reasonable controls against things going wrong, it's probably not a good idea to be an early adopter. It's just like a pacemaker, there are a narrow segment of people who should want to test a new model/concept for them.

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[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 34 points 2 weeks ago

I know the internet lives the guy but no. Just no.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Some people are starting to wake up to the fact that the guy is just another libertarian billionaire, he just happens to be in charge of a company that made a product people love enough to give them monopolistic powers.

Edit: these people aren't in this thread

Edit 2: first edit was from when the votes on that comment were at -8, happy to see that for once one of my comments on this subject ends up in the positives

[-] errer@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

You’re not wrong, the downvoters are just sad because you are right. Just takes one personality shift from Gabe to turn him from beloved figurehead to shitty billionaire and being reminded of that sucks.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

"one personality shift"

That's everyone dude. "Bernie Sanders is one personality shift away from being a Maga tech bro."

[-] errer@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Entirely correct. That’s why we shouldn’t put anyone on a pedestal.

[-] Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 1 week ago

He's also one body shift away from being a giant dragon with adamantium scales...

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[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If you just pay attention more than the average person you quickly realize that he's already a shitty billionaire.

Steam underage gambling profits him directly.

He owns a yacht collection while his clients can't afford to own the place they live in. How's that for an environmental impact?

His reaction to George Floyd's murder wasn't that Valve should release a statement as he considered that problematic (source), instead he gave each employee 10k to spend however they felt like. Where I used to work we used to call that a "shut the fuck up". Employees are complaining about something? Here's 10k each for them to shut the fuck up. Hell, they could spend that money to finance far right groups if they wanted, Newell didn't care!

Women employees with managerial positions at Valve? What women employees?

Valve takes a 30% cut but Newell is a billionaire, which means they could afford to take a much smaller cut, he could have hundreds of millions instead and the devs could have more money in their pockets.

[-] MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

I always get shat on for saying they do unregulated gambling, including to minors

People be really defending Valve

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[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

The only condition under which I wouid ever consider getting a neural implant, is if the implant and its software is open source.

Any closed source thing you stick in your brain will ultimately doom you.

Besides that, there'd also actually have to be a purpose. As it stands now, cybernetics isn't advanced enough to turn me into a full cyborg, so probably never in my lifetime.

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't think it's expected that the average person will be jumping at the opportunity to tinker with their neurons. The first line of people to get such implants will almost certainly be people with physical disabilities.

Regarding closed source ultimately being a net negative to your well being, I think you're absolutely right. Unfortunately with as niche as a product like this will be for some time, I worry any corporation willing to put forward the funding isn't going to be willing to open it up to such a degree.

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[-] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Headlines you didn't expect to read. Rather a Gabe chip than at Musk chip for sure

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

how about both of them fuck off and stop shoving their proprietary tech in our heads, just a thought

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[-] LostXOR@fedia.io 26 points 2 weeks ago

Might be a bit of an unpopular opinion, but I don't really see a problem with brain implants. I wouldn't put anything in my brain in a thousand years, but if someone's willing to accept the risks, why not? They have the potential to significantly improve quality of life for many people.

[-] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago

It's exactly like AI. Could the technology be useful were it to be used in service of goals that would serve humanity? Absolutely. Will it be used by billionaires in a way that will be harmful to most people in order to further entrench their power? Most definitely.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 12 points 2 weeks ago

"Someone might abuse it" is a reasonable concern. "Therefore nobody should be allowed to use it" is not a reasonable answer to that concern, IMO. We'd never have anything with that approach.

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[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

"Now, if you're part of Control Group Kepler-Seven, we implanted a tiny microchip about the size of a postcard into your skull. Most likely you've forgotten it's even there, but if it starts vibrating and beeping during this next test, let us know, because that means it's about to hit five hundred degrees, so we're gonna need to go ahead and get that out of you pretty fast." - Cave Johnson

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago

Oh no. You either die the hero, or...

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[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 week ago

The fact that most people would obviously never want to get a brain chip implant, combined with the fact that multiple billionaires are developing brain chip implants, indicates that there are plans in some circles to incentivize or coerce people into getting a brain chip implant at some point in the future.

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[-] Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Last time I checked, the "brain implants" from Valve looked like this:

Zombie from Half Life with a headcrab slipped over its head

[-] doodledup@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

TIL Valve is into brain chips.

[-] DasSkelett@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 week ago

As far as I can see the company behind it (Starfish Neuroscience) is not affiliated with Valve in any way? (Aside from having the same CEO)

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[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago
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[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 19 points 1 week ago

Karen Sandler did a great talk on closed source software medical devices many years ago.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qW1h1s_ojpM

This even more the case if it's your brain! It probably won't work for decades, but we should get house in order long before it does.

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[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So, to all the people freaking out and saying this is as bad as Musk and Neuralink:

https://starfishneuroscience.com/blog/ultra-low-power-miniature-electrophysiological-electronics/?header-bg=card-bg0

There is here zero mention of things like 'being able to take a phone call' or 'bluetooth your brain directly into a keyboard or mouse or other people's brains' as Musk was saying.

This seems very much intended to be aimed at legitimate medical conditions.

They didn't steal the PhD work of an actual pioneer in the development of medical brain implants via poaching a number of grad students who worked with him (which is what happened with Neuralink, btw), they are instead partnering with basically a nonprofit cooperative of the world's foremost experts on nanoelectronics development, who have an established track record of developing various medical devices.

...

If news comes out about GabeN electrocuting monkeys and pigs to either death, or insanity/brain damage so extreme it causes them to kill themselves to escape the pain (again, this literally happened at Neuralink), then I will absolutely do a 180 heel pivot and condemn the fuck out of that.

Just to be clear here, a BCI is probably the very last thing I would ever be an early adopter of as some kind of commercial, general use product. Seems absolutely insane given the rampant cybersecurity problems just basically everywhere all the time, not to mention I just don't like the idea of an actual chip in my actual brain, permanent holes in my skull.

Valve and GabeN are not some paragons of virtue, they basically invented (and still widely use and encourage) half of the monetization and dark pattern bullshit that is now everywhere in the entire games industry.

... But to me at least, this seems nowhere near as openly, comically, real world supervillain levels of evil as Elon and Neuralink.

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

"Alright, the implantation surgery was a success, now all we have to do is fire up the remote activation. Throwing the switch in three... two...

[-] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago

This is the new tech that will justify Half Life 3 they were talking about in the doc. It all makes sense now, the ultimate controller!

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 14 points 1 week ago

We're going to get Borg before GTA VI

[-] pipe01@programming.dev 13 points 1 week ago

They should make a big facility to test the implants

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[-] Wazowski@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

had pass on all this bullshit.

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[-] Killercat103@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'd probably be a slow adopter tbh. Feel like you would wany such a chip to be quite trustworthy and reliabld. Proprietary software and hardware is not the most trustworthy thing in the world...

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[-] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

"As part of your onboarding process, we're just going to implant your Company ID. That way, for your safety, we'll always know where you are. If you hear a buzzing sound, that means return to the office immediately. Reduced work speed will produce a mild reminder shock.

"Welcome to the Corporation."

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