What a rotten bitch
the thing i don't get is why people are focused on the transgender community so much?
They want to hate on someone but it's passé to hate on plain old gay people now.
Trans and brown people are trendy now.
IMO its always about scapegoating, you need to find a minority which is prevelant enough for people to have encountered, but not too many that they're in everyone's family or work or friend circle - and that won't have significant civic or voting power.
Post-ww2, ethnic divisions are more taboo, gay rights are too broadly popular to pursue, but trans people are the conservatives best punching down opportunity, while trying to appeal to people on the fence by being 'virtuous' and 'saving the kids'.
rowling also wants to retcon the og cast members of the films, because they dont like to be associated with her transphobia.
Pirating Harry Potter stuff is now not only a moral thing to do, but almost a moral obligation.
I’d say just don’t engage with it at all.
If someone talks about it, pretend ignorance. Like total ignorance of any aspect of the stories.
Or, if someone mentions it, just say you don’t give bigots money.
Editing to expand: by pirating you are perpetuating the cultural impact. The majority of people pay for access to this media, and by engaging with it you make it more costly for other people to skip it.
I have always hated Harry Potter. I hated Harry before it was cool to hate Harry.
I'm a mother fucking golden hipster God!
This is why the new tv series will be hated by all. They had a chance to remake and sanitize the series away from the grimy hands of JK and instead they doubled down. So if anything this remake might be even more offensive.
The wild thing is that growing up I had all the conservatives and bible people trying to stop us kids from reading the demonic Harry Potter novels. Now that they realize the author is one of them, they suddenly love the books about witchcraft!
Unfortunately, they won't be hated. A lot of people don't actually care all that much about trans people :(
Or anyone else for that matter
They will cast Snape as black and the audience will wonder why Harry immediately hates him.
Are you not aware that Snape literally has been cast as black? Because if not that's hilarious coincidence.
The potters being violently racist is cannon.
That’s the confusing thing to me, clearly the left audience is done with JK, but the show is also pissing off the right with “woke casting”
Just like the best selling game of the year, Hogwarts Legacy.
I don’t think Hogwarts: Legacy doubled down, though? It’s definitely sad that she made money off that game being sold, but she didn’t have any hand in the writing. The game has trans characters and allows the player to be trans as well.
It's one thing to still support someone despite them having some problematic opinions on the side. I do it, you probably do it, it annoys the shit out of me to know that this thing that I like is made by someone who shares opinion with which I strongly disagree with, sometimes that are even against me, personally, as a trans person.
But not understanding something, being ignorant and being kind of an asshole about it, is very different than what this hateful bitch is doing. She has dedicated her entire life to make people like me fucking miserable. And it's working!
I'm having a very hard time reconciling the fact that lots of people love Harry Potter and some people in my entourage are the same and they will support and pay for stuff made by this horrendous person regardless because this universe means that much to them. My sister is like that. I'm having a very hard time with that. I don't want to be that person... but fuck this hurts.
The worst part is that most people don't know about it. Most people don't know how much of a hateful, awful person J.K. Rowling is. And I have to admit, those people in my life, I'm genuinely afraid of telling them. Because I know that there is a chance that I'll tell them everything, and that in the end, they won't change a thing. Because my rights as a human being matters less to them. And I don't want to find that out...
I hate everything about this.
It is important to separate art and artist.
People get a lot of comfort out of religious text knowing next to nothing about the author(s).
This also means you can hate on JK Rowling without making any connection to HP.
No. I'm so tired of this. You can like the IP but you can't spend a single dime on it without funding transphobia. That's what we are talking about here.
Edit: The IP also should just die. Its popularity fuels hateful policies and attitudes against my existence.
Edit: This comment on it says it succinctly: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/26719393/14648789
I'm not trans, but I feel your pain. It sucks, a lot. Why do people have to be so hateful?
Low IQ and a lack of hobbies
I think that you shouldn’t tell people to stop enjoying what they love but to stop buying and funding her campaign.
It is hard to convince people to give up on their interests but it is reasonable to tell them where the money goes.
I myself I am mostly pirating all stuff. I could even help someone pirate it and do it for them. I think they would understand and agree to it. I would add that If they buy something from hp we are not friends/family anymore but if you ask me to pirate it then we could watch it together.
That’s my advice on how to approach this in a reasonable manner and if you need help pirating any hp stuff PM me and I will explain how to set everything up
First, let me start with saying I am sorry. Currently, the world seems very preoccupied with cocks and vagina's and who should have what. (Kinda weird, but yeah).
I love Harry Potter. It was the first series of books that really resonated with me. It is really sad to see that someone, who came from nothing and gained it all. Could live the dream, have all the money and affection, is such a massive cunt.
Yet somehow, it doesn't make me stop loving Harry Potter. When reading the books again, it reminds me of my childhood. Me reading at 2:00 in the morning underneath the blankets with a pocket light in me mouth to not let anyone know I am not sleeping. Daydreaming about such a world where magic exist.
The solution, I am afraid, is something I cannot provide. Money buys news, news poisons the minds. I stand for humanity, and all humans. No matter which configuration. And if someone wants to have a nice pair of tits and cunt instead of a dick, go on and have your merry life.
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I don't know if this is helpful or not. What is your solution?
I don't know, there's a lot of racism and anti-Semitism in those books as well. I mean the money obsessed long nose goblins? Cho Chang?
They're good stories, but they do reflect the work of a fundamentally biggoted author.
In general the entire series is mean-spirited. You can see the roots of Rowling's hate in how she describes any of the series antagonists.
Okay, I'm sure I'll get vote-bombed here, please don't jump the gun, I'm pro lgbtq+. I don't give a shit who or how someone loves, just hope they're allowed to be happy with themselves (unless they're hurting people, obviously).
I believe trans rights, and womens rights, are human rights. I don't think anybody should be treated differently due to gender, sex, race, or orientation, and they shouldn't be discriminated against in any way. I'm just trying to make sure I understand fully for when I defend the pro trans position that I believe to be correct.
I started looking further into this because a friend of mine, which is a total HP nerd, was trying to give me some context on where her anti-trans activism comes from. It SEEMS like she mostly wants to make sure women stay safe (paraphrasing her own words here). In Scotland apparently they're changing things so that a dude can just say he's not a dude, and be legally allowed in all women only spaces if they register with the government or whatever. I can absolutely see how that could be used in a predatory manor, and can see that side of the argument.
I just read her piece here: https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/ To make sure I'm getting as complete of a look at the situation as I can.
And it confused the issue a little for me. All of her arguments seem to be coming from a place of reason, and some of them made sense (if the referenced stats were true). Most of her arguments seem to come from a "I don't want to make it easier for male predators to prey on women" standpoint, which makes sense at the surface level.
is the current climate making it fashionable to transition? I find it hard to believe someone would go that far without truly thinking it's the right thing to do, but some people are highly influenced by peer pressure. I can also see maybe some women wanting to change to escape the misogyny of our current world. I'm a straight cis-male, and I can't personally resonate with the idea of changing that because it's "popular" or whatever, so I don't put a lot of credence into that argument, but I'm not everyone 🤷.
I also understand that sex and gender are separate, and Rowling seems to be on the train that conflates it, which might be the basis for her position.
Please help me learn and understand. Someone with more context or knowledge, please let me know. I'd love the opinion of some trans folks if you see this. Rowling says she's getting support from trans women for her positions. And I'm sure that's true, there's bound to be some, like there's women who support patriarchy.
Edit, reordered my statements so my current position is clear at the start
I started looking further into this because a friend of mine, which is a total HP nerd, was trying to give me some context on where her anti-trans activism comes from.
You deliberately found someone with strong bias to get info from? Maybe you should think about that.
I also understand that sex and gender are separate, and Rowling seems to be on the train that conflates it, which might be the basis for her position.
I think you need to back up a little more on Rowling. If you start dissecting her works, you'll see she has born/birth/blood nature being a reoccurring theme. Hagrid is naturally angry. Voldemort is evil because he was a rape baby. House Elves are natural ~~slaves~~servants. The Weasley family will always be poor(even when Harry should be paying rent or at least buying them a new car). Hell, the Irish character keeps blowing things up. Things are the way they are at birth and anyone who pushes against the natural order is wrong. Hermione Granger, the other outside to magical society took issue with the House Elves being treated as slaves and everyone, including the House Elves and Harry Potter, the first outsider and someone who should have no bias for slavery, treated her as being annoying and wrong for caring.(Also remember when JK implied that Hermione could be Black? Yeah, this isn't a good look.)
If you want a deep dive into Rowling's writings that isn't centered on the trans issue, check out Shaun's review of her total body of work at the time.
How is Hagrid an angry person?
He's super kind. A tad emotional at times, but not angry.
Also the Irish kid blowing up things is from the movies, not from the books.
anyone who pushes against the natural order is wrong
I mean I get where you're coming from, I've always been bothered by the whole premise of "lol if the muggles knew we had magic they want us to help them so we can't tell them" and just how unrealistic it would be to be able to keep such a thing a secret, especially when it's canon and central to the story even that sometimes muggle families have a magical kid, and it can even be just one of siblings. Tweeners are so bad at keeping secrets. Imagine that you're in a regular school and have regular friends until you're 11 and then just vanish from their lives or somehow manage to still see them but... you won't tell them you're actually magic? Anything about what you're studying, where your school is, etc etc? Right.
However we can't deny that within that world the deatheaters are clearly even more racist and evil, and that the main characters fight against them.
Anyway Rowling is batshit nowadays I'm not defending her but I found your criticism factually inaccurate at those small parts so...
It is kinda silly how the wizarding society treats elves, but also it's not as crazy diegetically, because the crazy author has written the story in the way that the house-elves actually do pretty much crave it. Which in itself is kinda... ew, but it's not as offensive as it sounds, imo, as the starting concept, seeing as she was probably taking inspiration of mythical house elves, and those are sort of a more respectful concept, but clearly where JKR has drawn from.
The early house elves were by no means merely benevolent figures. The elf was believed to observe the life of the household very closely and judgementally. If the household members did not live in a well-behaved and diligent manner, the easily irritated elf could remind them of his existence, for example by causing a disturbance similar to haunting. At worst, the elf could leave the ill-mannered house altogether, taking happiness away from the house.
Christmas was an important celebration for house elves. On Christmas night, people would prepare a plate of porridge for the elf and put it where the elf was known to live, such as the sauna, barn, stable or attic. It was also customary to leave food for elves at the Christmas table for Christmas night.
https://www.kansallismuseo.fi/en/items-of-the-month/2022/tontut
That's Finnish folklore, not JKR's writings. I've left out food for tonttus as a kid.
No, Hagrid is a very angry person. He just angry on behalf of the MC most of the time, so we're routing for him. I found it weird how quickly a grown adult was to attack a child despite not really knowing them or being a threat. If it were an illusion or temporary spell Hagrid used on Dudley, it would be a little different, but he needed an operation to get fixed.
Also the Irish kid blowing up things is from the movies, not from the books.
Still has her name on it. Also, that floor in the bank in the movie wasn't a good look when you're already under criticism for the goblins for being a Jewish metaphor.
"they wouldn't know what to do with freedom"
That's a line straight out of the anti-abolitionist in America and many, many other places that have slavery or caste systems. Harry Potter kept almost being interesting and I had assumed that the story line would go somewhere before dropping for other reasons. I was pretty surprised when Hermione's SPEW just fizzled out. I really should have know with a name like that.
If the house elves worked like where she supposedly got inspiration form, they'd be far, far more interesting. Like I said, Harry Potter is one of those stories that kept almost being interesting.
That’s a line straight out of the anti-abolitionist in America and many, many other places that have slavery or caste systems
My point exactly. It's dehumanising to assume anyone is "born to serve" or some shit like that, but in the books, that's basically what the elves are. Like it's not just that the people are saying that, they're actually magical entities formed from the house. Kinda like dementors are just formed from murderous anger and hostility and all things bad. That's my point; if you buy into the assumption that such things can be born out of notions or ideas, then it would sort of make sense to have creatures which are so dedicated to house-work. Perhaps the reason I find it easy to understand is because of the Finnish lore about house elves I heard long before ever reading JKR.
The bit I pasted isn't all the myth there is and they're not always feared as such. I think there could be way more respect allowed to them in the wizarding world, seeing how powerful they actually are. It would've been much cooler for them to have like "risky" servants in the sense that unless they're allowed the proper respect and protocol and whatnot, they'll make anyone's life hell. Like a nasty but very proper matron, who you wouldn't want to piss off and even the lord of the house would make sure to clean mud off his shoes before coming in to avoid a bollocking.
Yeah, it kept almost being interesting, but as I first read it when it was actually coming out and we had no idea of JKR's budding insanity (honestly, we got to admit that most artists are kinda crazy, so that's unsurprising, she's just crazy in a really toxic way that's harmful to others) I was around 14 years old so back then I looked at it quite differently. Basically I aged the same time as the characters did, and it was a nice escape.
But yeah, there's definitely much that could be done with it. I honestly would like to see like a Harry Potter universe version of a show like "Andor". Like super gritty and political compared to the originals, and mainly not written by the original author, but just using the setting. Like get some of the original cast back and see Daniel Radcliffe actually hunting dark wizards in his thirties. Some non-terf people to write the show, actually good writing, R-rating. I'd watch the shit out of that.
edit also you've not convinced me hagrid is an angry person just because he did a little bit of magic on Dudley
Harry Potter defenders: “JK Rowling just said mean words online she hasn’t actually harmed trans people!”
What JK Rowling is doing with the money:
Ok but harry potter "defenders" and jk Rowling defenders are not the same. You can appreciate the world of HP while not agreeing or supporting their shit creator.
I know that this is of only tangential relevance to the OP but I think that it could be safely said that "transgenderism" is boring and irrelevant to everybody except for a tiny sliver of the population : Those who love it and those who hate it. And these people seem to talk a lot.
So many people are unique in different ways. Some people eat meat, some don't, some can't. Some people are tall, some short, some average. Some people are the life of the party, and some are quiet. Some people feel comfortable in their bodies, and some don't.... And sometimes they want the be different. I don't fault people for wanting to be comfortable with who they are. They should be comfortable in their own bodies, and if that means changing it, then that should be okay too. Sometimes, there are people that pick on other people for not liking the same things they do, or for not looking the way they do, and this can hurt the people that they are picking on. You may think it's okay for you to ignore it because it doesn't affect you, but that's selfish. What if people decided to pick on you for something that you couldn't control? Would you want other people to ignore it and turn a blind eye? No, right? You wouldn't think that that is okay. Sometimes you need to stand up to help people and support them, especially when someone else is being mean to them....because you never know when those mean people might to start picking on you. And if no one helps each other, then the mean people feel like they can get away with it...like they have power over everyone else. But when we speak up, when we say 'that's not okay,' we take that power away. We show them that being cruel isn’t something we accept or ignore.
Standing up for others isn’t just about helping someone else, it’s about creating a world that’s kinder and safer for everyone, including yourself. When we support each other, we build trust, respect, and strength in our communities. We show each other that we matter, just as we are.
So when you see someone being treated unfairly, remember: your voice matters. Even one person standing up can make a huge difference. Be that person."
Just had this conversation with my young daughter about bullies, I adapted it a bit, but I thought maybe you could use it too.
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