Here's a lot I pass by every day.
Aren’t these atrocities full of nice lithium batteries? If so, confiscated cars can be scraped for parts with the batteries going to hospitals, schools, the ACAB offices and fire departments to be used as backup electricity.
I'm surprised nobody has stolen the rims or the batteries, or even tried to steal the catalytic converter.
What catalytic converter? They're electric.
The metal body panels that have just been haphazardly hung onto the frame on the other hand...
On one hand, lmao. On the other, seems like kind of a dumb thing for the city to get mad over. Not like that dead mall's parking lot was suddenly going to become a economic center of the city or anything.
"Tesla has been parking the EVs at a shopping center earmarked for major redevelopment."
They're in the way of the redevelopment.
Then the property owner should have them towed.
Wouldn't want to incur the wrath of the richest asshole on the planet
God the environmental damage caused by making all these batteries, only to be used in a cyber truck and dumped in a car park.
Remember when Elon was pretending to be saving the environment, well now he isn't.
Batteries can be recycled, reused or repurposed. It’s nowhere near as damaging as drilling for/refining/shipping/burning oil and we decided we are perfectly okay with that.
I thought it was widely accepted that lithium mining is far more harmful to the environment than drilling for oil, and that the hope was that not burning oil/gas we offset the mining (to the point if u drive ur electric car x miles it's cleaner overall than if u drive an ICE vehicle). Do you have information that states otherwise?
I thought it was widely accepted . . .
No. Not even close.
Care to offer a morsel of information? I like facts not speculation or public optics...
I'll offer as many references as you did in your claims.
Alright here's more effort than you could be bothered with- drilling oil out of the ground involved a drill that goes deep into the ground. Their not all that big. Have you seen a lithium mine before? Massive hole in the earth miles wide and quite deep, a hole in the earth that will be visible for centuries. A big open wound on the planet that cannot heal itself. I know this is a tough comparison because oil is more of a consumable, and lithium for batteries sure it's technically a consumable but with a much longer life than say a 50 gal drum of oil. I'm not taking into account refining for either material, or the waste involved with disposing of batteries or emissions of cars burning gas. It's an apples to oranges comparison and hard to say which is worse at the end of the day. What is a fact, however, is that producing an electric car is more harmful to the environment than producing an ice car. And keeping an old ice car alive is better for the environment than producing any new car. Both lithium mining and oil drilling quite frankly awful for the environment. So do you have the gusto to help me understand and produce a productive conversation or are u happy to just troll? It is an incredibly complex issue to account for the exact environmental impact of either, but an issue that intrigues me and I think an important conversation to have.
Your post is still just speculation based on personal understanding. I can claim every word of it is wrong and be just as credible.
Are you going to post an actual study comparing the manufacturing costs? You made the claim first, so you get to do the work first.
Yea but we both know you wont, because your just as credible. It's a fact that it you average ev has twice the carbon footprint of a ice car, and takes 3 years roughly to offset its carbon emissions assuming 15k miles driven a year. At 10 years, carbon footprint of an ice car is roughly double that of the ev, but from 10 years on your subject to battery failure and now need to dispose of a big nasty battery pack and replace it. It will take a few decades to see what the true footprint of evs are, and there is no published studies with the long term effects because we haven't gotten there yet. This is the closest thing I found upon a brief search, so fesrlst yer eyes on a graph. Keep in mind that's based off a Nissan leaf and fiat 500, you could choose a more economical car with smaller footprint and a larger footprint ev to skew results in my favor, or compare the leaf to a truck or whatever ur average American drives and steer the conversation towards evs but I think it's a reasonable apple to apples comparison. This whole conversation has been speculation and I thank you for ur engagement 👍 https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/electric-vehicles-contribute-fewer-emissions-than-gasoline-powered-cars-over-their-lifetimes/
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