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[-] lukstru@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

vim evangelists incoming although they are on panel 3

[-] Thorry84@feddit.nl 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I hate how IDEs with error checking check the code at every character. Like my dude, we got this shit right with text editors having spell check back in 1997. Wait just a moment before checking please. All the time when I'm typing the editor freaks the fuck out, this is wrong, this is wrong, here is an error, wtf is this supposed to mean? And then when I type the ) or whatever, all is well. Just give me a freaking second to work and think.

[-] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 0 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe old IDEs. Like Eclipse 10-20 years ago.

Modern IDEs don’t really have these issues as frequently.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

modern IDEs are dog shit. If I needed a glorified clippy telling me how to do my job I'd smash my brains out all over my keyboard.

Give me an editor with the following and I'll be good for life.

  • syntax highlighting/error flagging
  • project scoping
  • script injection
  • ftp/scp

nice to have:

  • db viewer (SQL/sqlite)
  • json viewer
  • diff
  • git/vcs

if an editor can do all that I can make it do whatever I need.

[-] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 0 points 2 weeks ago

I had similar opinion, but I’ve changed my mind. Now I can barely do any serious work without an IDE.

The main feature I’m after is code completion. Just getting a peek of which methods are available is something I can’t be without.

Code hints like ”this expression will always evaluate to false” is great to capture difficult to spot mistakes.

Code usage it’s is a must when doing refactors. It makes it easy to analyze how a method is used before I commit to a refactor.

Debugger and profiler is also nice to have.

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

I'd say that's true for most devs.

personally though, all that is noise to me and is difficult to maintain focus when it's got all these popups and autofills.

I'm currently maintaining a codebase that's got something like 900 methods/functions across multiple classes, modules, and other objects. It follows a pattern and is pretty easy to maintain though.

another project I'm inheriting is doesn't have any logical flow or pattern and is a shitstorm of JS Christmas trees. I'll likely need to used something that will trace through the callbacks just to see what the fuck is going on.

my point though, is if you depend on the tools that make it easy to write sloppy code, you will write sloppy code because the key feature of the tool allows you to do it without repercussions.

building something without effort rarely ends with a result you can be proud of. this is true for development and in life, IMO.

[-] themaninblack@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

“A shitstorm of JS Christmas trees” what poetry. Thank you.

[-] skip0110@lemm.ee -1 points 2 weeks ago

Visual Studio has these issues daily.

Ten years ago VS was awesome. In the last 2 years, all they added is AI crap and every other feature got more buggy.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 0 points 2 weeks ago

The fediverse is just so geeky. I don't know what this means. The wikipedia article kinda makes sense, but there's a lot of terminology in there. It seems like an advanced editor with many features - like a bat-mobile for programmers, but it keeps breaking down?

[-] stormdelay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Basically yeah, it's a text editor with a lot of features geared towards making programing easier, e.g. an equivalent of a spell checker but for code. Like any software, some IDEs/features can be either poorly designed or unstable, which can be aggravating when you spend your day working with it.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 0 points 2 weeks ago

Are IDEs the microsoft word of programming?

[-] buffing_lecturer@leminal.space -1 points 2 weeks ago

That is a pretty good way to look at it.

this post was submitted on 30 May 2025
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