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Trump pushes envelope with comment on the ‘poisoning’ of U.S. ‘blood’ (www.msnbc.com)

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[-] LordOfTheChia@lemmy.world 176 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The specific quote:

“Nobody has any idea where these people are coming from, and we know they come from prisons. We know they come from mental institutions and insane asylums. We know they’re terrorists. Nobody has ever seen anything like we’re witnessing right now. It is a very sad thing for our country. It’s poisoning the blood of our country.”

From the article:

Laura Barrón-López, White House correspondent for PBS, told viewers last night, “I checked with a historian, Ruth Ben-Ghiat, and she said that language that he’s using ... echoes language used in Nazi propaganda by Adolf Hitler when Adolf Hitler actually said that Jewish people and migrants were ‘causing a blood poisoning’ of Germany.”

Additional site reporting the same (in an interview):

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/trump-amplifies-violent-rhetoric-against-his-perceived-enemies-as-civil-fraud-trial-begins

[-] CarlsIII@kbin.social 109 points 1 year ago

Nobody has any idea where these people are coming from…

…and we know they come from…

Ok, logically, at least one of these is guaranteed to be a lie.

[-] Unaware7013@kbin.social 50 points 1 year ago

If you think of a trump speech like a LLM talking, you realize that he frequently doesn't know where a sentence will go when he opens his mouth because he's just stringing words and concepts together in a freeform flashy propaganda wordsalad.

[-] cyd@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

LLMs nowadays have more long range structure than a Trump speech. Trump is more like an attention-free Markov chain.

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago

Markov chains occasionally produce something clever or unexpected though. For example King James Programming (a Markov chain generator fed with KJV, Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs, and some of Eric S. Raymond's writings) sometimes wrote some amusing things. Later Why's Poignant Guide was added as an additional source, and still later started mixing in posts from a second generator fed the works of Lovecraft and Isabelle/HOL documentation.

Investigate the shell’s here documents and Python’s triple-quote construct to find out the Almighty unto perfection

they smote the city with the edge of the sword. 22:20 And one of his main motivations was the high cost of proprietary software houses.

I know not why I went thither unless to pray, or gibber out insane pleas and apologies to the calm white thing that lay within; but, whatever my reason, I attacked the half-frozen sod with a desperation partly mine and partly that of a bounded natural functor (BNF)—a well-behaved type constructor for which nested (co)recursion is supported.

2:4 And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more like a controlled use of shared memory.

Using Lisp we restrict or limit not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us.

It even produced more coherent political notions than Trump:

But the right to bear arms—you don’t want to edit

All of those quotes are in the first 3 pages, out of 94.

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[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 41 points 1 year ago

Maybe he did read Mein Kampf after all?

Fucking fascist Nazi piece of shit.

[-] ezchili@iusearchlinux.fyi 25 points 1 year ago

He doesn't read

Likely got it from a new alt right friend he made in the last 8 years

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[-] Nougat@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago

Let's play everyone's favorite game show - Trump or Hitler!

[-] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

I....I don't like this game....

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 22 points 1 year ago

Pro tip: Trump is the one speaking English

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago

Barely

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[-] mocha_lotsofmilk@lemmy.world 148 points 1 year ago

Just now? THIS is pushing the envelope? Lmao

[-] osarusan@kbin.social 79 points 1 year ago

And he almost crossed the line this time! Don't worry, they've already moved the line 10 yard back to give him some extra space to push the envelope further.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

Yes, using an almost exact Hitler quote is pushing the envelope because it's a new level for him.

[-] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It isn't. He's started his campaign with fascist rhetoric. He's just saying with the emotion of a deranged fool and not the balanced charisma he had before.

Edit: Nvm. I watched the actual video. He's still got that contemplative attitude. He was being interviewed, after all.

[-] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

In his inauguration speech it was like he was channeling Hitler. Really creepy.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

American carnage!

What a perfect kickoff to a never-ending clownwreck of hypocritical idiot crooks.

[-] clif@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

He had balanced charisma? When?

I've been around about the same amount of time he has and I've never seen it.

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[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 19 points 1 year ago

Wait, so when he talked about the lying press (Lügenpresse) that didn't count because why?

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[-] hypelightfly@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

It's not a new level for him, not even close.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

It’s so not a new level for him. Very fine people, great genetics, etc.

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[-] pingveno@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Yes, he is pushing the envelope now. And in the past. And in the future. Asking Donald Trump to not be a trash fire is like asking gravity to suddenly reverse. It ain't happening.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

I used to push the envelope. I still do, but I used to too.

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[-] halfempty@kbin.social 96 points 1 year ago

"Adolf Hitler actually said that Jewish people and migrants were ‘causing a blood poisoning’ of Germany.”

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

yup, and we all know that Trump idolizes Hitler

[-] rDrDr@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago

Alternate headline: "Racist racists racistly"

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago

Only a matter of time before he starts talking about a "Final Solution" to the immigrant problem...

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

DeSADIST has already started talking about killing them.

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[-] DigitalTraveler42@lemm.ee 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Donald Trump, second generation German immigrant, who has lived within sight of Lady Liberty most of his life, what an embarrassment, not only to Americans, but specifically New Yorkers, one of the most mixed melting pots of a city in the entire world. What a racist idiot, especially when you consider the fact that south and central Americans were here before white people, so if anybody is diluting America's blood line, it's white motherfuckers like myself and Donald Trump.

[-] Deiskos@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

immigration for me but not for thee

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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 year ago

They’ve been using regular whistles instead of dog whistles since about 2016. Good job, journalism. You finally figured out what we all knew.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

Msnbc with the soft-pedal. Corporate news continuing to fail us at almost every turn.

[-] whatupwiththat@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Exactly as they are paid to do

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

I can't really comprehend how evangelical Christians find this man to be at all acceptable. In fact, he's treated as some sort of savior. Major disconnect.

[-] isles@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Evangelical's whole platform is divine authority to rule. It ties right in with colonialism, white supremacy, and fascism. "I'm right 'cause I say my god said so". But I also believe that most Christian's today would crucify Christ all over again as a communist.

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[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

It's easy when you understand that their moral framework is actually completely hollow, and their independent moral intuition is completely atrophied to the point that they are unable to conduct even basic moral synthesis.

Religion, as we know it, has always been a framework for social control and cooperation. The morality bits have always served this end, so it's not really surprising that in our modern context they just dispense with any moral pretenses as soon as they are in obvious conflict with their power aspirations.

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[-] nucleative@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I think this is a group of people who identify with being told what to believe by strong personalities who take strong positions.

Doesn't matter what they are told, that's not the point. It's the freedom from being asked to think, which if you consider it for a while, is a heavy burden removed.

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[-] NataliePortland@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 year ago

His hands are so small

[-] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

NOBODY LOOK!

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[-] theodewere@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

it's just gonna get more and more shrill as he swirls farther down that shitter bowl

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[-] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When a reporter asked how his five children were doing, the former president loudly exclaimed:

“Nobody has any idea where these people are coming from, and we know they come from prisons. We know they come from mental institutions and insane asylums. We know they’re terrorists. Nobody has ever seen anything like we’re witnessing right now. It is a very sad thing for our country. It’s poisoning the blood of our country.”

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Will the fucking "liberal media" wake up if he starts using the original German?

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[-] JuzoInui@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

This azzclown is becoming more of a NPC from Wolfenstein every freaking day. He won’t spill blood himself but trust and believe he’ll be furthest in the rear slopping it all up.

[-] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Fascists gonna fasc

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Mark my words, this mother bugger getting arrested before these trials even over.

[-] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I've become cynical at this point, I don't think he sees ANY time behind bars.

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