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More passengers shuttling between China’s two biggest cities are choosing to hop on a bullet train rather than a flight, as airlines struggle to match the convenience offered by the country’s ultra-modern high-speed rail network.

The shift to rail has become so pronounced on the busy Beijing-Shanghai route that China’s air travel industry has warned its market is being “eroded”, with airlines scrambling to lure back customers with cheaper tickets and free limousine services.

Passengers made more than 52 million trips by train between Beijing and Shanghai last year, while only about 8.6 million people took a flight between the two cities, according to civil aviation platform Hangban Guanjia.


More than 100 high-speed trains now run between Beijing and Shanghai in both directions each day at speeds of up to 350km/h (217 mph), most of them comprising 16 to 17 carriages including first- and business-class cabins.

The profitability and high usage rate on the Beijing-Shanghai line offers a stark contrast to some other Chinese railways. Many lines in the country’s sparsely populated central and western provinces run at heavy losses.


Business travellers make up a particularly large proportion of rail passengers, Tong Lijun, deputy chief of Shanghai Hongqiao Railway Station, told domestic media outlet Jiefang Daily.

“They favour many conveniences rail transport can offer but air travel cannot, such as good punctuality, city centre-to-city centre connectivity, reliable services even during unstable weather, and the flexibility to change departure times,” Tong said.

“Many tend to avoid air travel since having to go offline on a flight can be a deal-breaker, as they need to make full use of the journey to stay connected and do some work,” he added.

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[-] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 24 points 5 days ago

If the logistics of the trip make it realistic, trains are infinitely better in every respect.

Real human-sized tables. Plugs for charging. No security, no entering a whole other little authoritarian world where people make you take your shoes off and throw away your water. Get up and walk around. Go get a sandwich! The world is your oyster. Watch cool stuff going past (this one can also be true on airplanes but is more intermittent). It's just better.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 days ago

If I recall correctly, you still have to go through security to get on the high speed rail in China.

[-] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 3 points 4 days ago

I've not been to China, so take this with a portable salt cellar. However, I took a fair number of ICEs in the '90s and arrived in Texas 10 years ago via Amtrak. There were no security measures.

I'd not be surprised if China has actual security versus the security theatre we do with air travel in the U.S.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

Oh yeah, Amtrak gives zero shits up north as well per my experience around… 10 years ago lol

[-] OKRainbowKid@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 days ago

You have to go through a check and have your luggage scanned upon entering a train station, and then go through another check before reaching the platforms.

However, the luggage scans seemed like a security theatre, and the main purpose of the checks seemed to be tracking people, since they were scanning passports.

[-] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 2 points 4 days ago

Passports for domestic travel?

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

If you don’t have a national ID card you have to travel with your passport. I had to do this.

There’s also really weird “bomb checks” in China, where they won’t let you proceed randomly as a group. I’ve seen this on the metro, the high speed rail, and the airport.

So like if someone’s bomb is timed but you’re stuck in the group….

I don’t know why this is a good idea.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It's China, so you're kind of in a high-security panopticon whenever economical. And oh boy, if you're mad about Western tech company lock in, you haven't seen anything yet.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

Until you’re late for your flight and they rush you through security….

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I didn't say they were good at it, haha! And the "whenever economical" bit is pretty restrictive if you're in rural Tibet or something.

[-] megopie@beehaw.org 6 points 4 days ago

In addition to what they mentioned , I hate airports so much, they feel super alienating and hostile, even down to the architecture and interior design. Everything is stupid expensive and since they won’t give you a meal on the flight most of the time, and security hates people bringing food and drinks through, you kind of have to get something there. Airport security is also just a nightmare in general, having to pull my luggage and outfit apart and then reassemble it quickly so I don’t hold up the line is just stressful.

The fact that Amtrak doesn’t have security, complex boarding, or assigned seats is probably one of the biggest reasons I will always choose a train for travel if it’s a practical option. Most of the travel I do is in the northeast and mid-atlantic, so that works for me, I’ve even taken the train out to Chicago a few times, it was about 5 times longer than the flight would have been but still, cheaper by 100 dollars and way nicer. If I have to use a plane to make a trip, it legitimately makes me try to avoid the trip. Would be nice if we had more high speed trains than just the Acela to make more routes practical.

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