Friendly reminder: suspending habeas corpus for illegal immigrants means that you have NO LEGAL RECOURSE WHATSOEVER if ICE wrongly detains you.

You cannot in any way prove in a court of law that you are not an illegal immigrant if you have no right to have your detention as an illegal immigrant challenged in court.

It DOES NOT MATTER if you have great evidence that you're not an illegal immigrant if illegal immigrants lose their right to trial. It means NOTHING because you then immediately lose your right to legal defence as soon as ICE detans you.

Prove you're not a camel. Props to Timothy Snyder for calling that one.

Only people acting in good-faith care about your "proof"

Watson says that, looking back, he’s not confident that the damage long-term imprisonment did to his mind and body was worth it to remain in the country. “As lovely as America sounds, it’s not everything. It’s okay to start back over and live your life, because sometimes you’re gonna sit there for a long time if you’re fighting,” he says. His advice to other citizens in ICE detention is to remain open to giving up, if deportation means getting out of jail

Only do that if you know you'll actually be deported - rather than imprisoned offshore.

Not if the people examining my documents are morons, no.

I have a birth certificate, I have a passport and a passport card. None of that is a defense against "It's fake".

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/24/us-citizen-detained-ice-real-id

I fully agree with the comments criticizing the ICE and proof of citizenship. The shitty part, the judicial branch is not arresting nor penalizing the business owners hiring illegal labor and a lot of those fuckers voted for this shit.

Well, for me personally, all they would need to do is run my finger prints as my prints have been in the system since I was in highschool for employment background checks.

However, that would assume that the thugs were competent and acting in good faith, which they are not.

It's like proving to a Nazi, you don't have Jewish ancestry in 1938.

There is an important and subtle distinction to be made here. A lot of noise is made calling people who are here without authorization "illegals", but that's not always true. Being present in the country without authorization is not automatically a criminal matter. It is true that many of the avenues for being here without authorization (crossing illegally, overstaying a visa) also violate the law, but that is handled as a separate matter.

Since immigration status is mostly a civil matter, ot a criminal one, these immigration courts are not under the Judicial Branch, like criminal courts are. They are actually "administrative courts" which are part of the Department of Justice, under the President, just like ICE is.

So while the courts occasionally provide a check on this Predident's power, the immigration courts never will. They ultimately report to the President through the DoJ, and the President has much more direct influence over it. So it doesn't surprise me that these people are stuck in a Kafkaesque hell, where ICE ignore their pleas that they are citizens and says "tell it to the judge", and when they finally get to the judge they get ignored.

Is it any wonder that Trump was so dead set against the immigration bill last year? He needed the process to stay chaotic, in order to have a better chance of winning.

So many things wrong with this headline.

• It is 'nearly impossible to escape' FOR ANYONE, not just US citizens. By design.
• You can be in the US legitimately without being a citizen.
• ANY AND EVERY detainment by ICE is wrongful.
• You are not legally required to provide ID to authorities. In some states you can be compelled to provide your full name and possibly your address, ONLY if there is reasonable suspicion against you.

not if someone expects me to produce documents randomly on the sidewalk.

Proving you're a citizen or not is irrelevant since ICE are not enforcing immigration law they're conducting an ethnic cleansing campaign.

Man, I can't wait for them to try to grab someone with concealed carry.

if only they had some sort of id card they kept on their person at all times.... The government would know who they are. They are explicitly against this. So, "leopards ate my face"