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[-] andybytes@programming.dev 7 points 6 days ago

All of this is nonsense

[-] andybytes@programming.dev 0 points 6 days ago

This is not reality

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 86 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

At this point, bricking a smartphone by flashing dodgy ROMs is a rite of passage.

Edit: at least it was before everyone started bootlocking like assholes...

[-] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 days ago

You can unlock the bootloader of almost any phone in the EU.

Now, there will be literally no custom firmware for it, but its still possible.

[-] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 days ago

Well, that would be nice, but it's still not all of them. Unfortunately, I own a Zenfone 10 as my main driver, and Asus have not released the unlock tools they promised since Zenfone 9. And, afaik, this is applicable to a lot of the top producers, with a few exceptions.

I can't wait for the new regulations to properly settle in, hopefully we'll start seeing full unlocks with the upcoming generations...

[-] devilish666@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago
[-] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 44 points 1 week ago

Say, how come this? I've installed Linux-based OSs onto laptops without much care in the world, yet I feel like trying a custom ROM on Android requires me to check for ROM compatibiliy with my device and brings risk of bricking

[-] deltapi@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

So to provide further context, PCs have tables that can be checked to see what hardware is located where. Phones don't have this, and if you try to query the wrong component or the right component at the wrong address, you can crash the whole device.

PCs were this way too, before PnP/PCI/ACPI tech showed up.

Loading Linux on a Pentium with a bunch of ISA cards was NOT a guaranteed win.

[-] edinbruh@feddit.it 44 points 1 week ago

The pc ecosystem is modular by design. The kernel will figure out itself the available hardware, moreover there are only two major CPU manufacturers (in the pc space of course), which means you have only two platforms to support.

Mobile phones instead are not modular, they use SoC. While most common socs are from Qualcomm and mediatek, there are a lot more smaller manufacturers. Plus, even if most often they use the same reference design for compute cores, the rest of the soc is often custom and wildly different from others. All of this to say that the kernel needs to already know exactly how the specific soc of the device works, instead of figuring it out on the fly. Which is why you need to check compatibility.

The brick thing instead is because the bootloaders in these devices are usually very locked down, so sometimes you need to replace the bootloader with a more open one, with all the risks that this entails

[-] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I really wish it wasn't like this, but replacing a phone's OS is a lot more like flashing a custom bios than installing an OS on a hard drive.

[-] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I would think the pre-known hardware configuration would make boots near instant. I never understood why this isn't so.

[-] edinbruh@feddit.it 2 points 6 days ago

The hardware still needs to be brought up and initialised. But the software is the real problem here. The kernel gets fully up in seconds, but then you have to initialize the rest of the OS

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago

I think i've read something about (pseudo-)RISC architectures not allowing universal drivers for whole families, each must exactly match to the hardware.

[-] alexdeathway@programming.dev 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not sure if this is joke or not because that warning about xiaome service center in India is absolutely true.

[-] Stewbs@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

God it's so horrendous. I thought Micromax customer service was terrible but then Xiaomi arrived...

[-] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

I remember bricking my Xiaomi as it were yesterday. Flashed the firmware for a Poco F4 on a Poco F1 because I was too dumb to read.

I looked for a fix a long time, the final solution was to throw it into the fucking trash. . .

Tap for spoilerOf course I recycled it

[-] M33@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 week ago

Need to make that in an HD picture for my lock screen

[-] HyperfocusSurfer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

Or -- hear me out -- restore shit yourself via edl

[-] drunkosaurus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago
[-] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 week ago
[-] dwindling7373@feddit.it 25 points 1 week ago

No this is Patrik

[-] noctivius@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

what Xiaomi service center could do?

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 1 week ago

Sell you a new motherboard?

[-] Lightfire228@pawb.social 13 points 1 week ago

The SoC on the motherboard has a special EDL mode

This is kinda like the SoC's pre-bootloader, which loads the bootloader and can be used to flash a new bootloader

EDL mode is locked behind vendor specific certs/keys, so it's unaccessible to the device owner

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"could", or "would"?

[-] fargeol@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

By two times, my « most self-repairable phone in the world » was bricked. This is so awful.

[-] Lumisal@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Well, it's most self repairable, not most durable and resistant. So time to repair 😂

[-] ulterno@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

most self-repairable phone in the world

You bricked a Fairphone 3?

[-] fargeol@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

A Fairphone 4

this post was submitted on 09 Jun 2025
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