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I wish democrats would make moving to places like Montana, the Dakotas and Wyoming a priority
I think more Democrats moving to swing states like Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, Pennsylvania, North Carolina would be higher priority if people are free to move wherever purely based on political reasons.
Why would we want to live in a shithole state like that?
If you bring enough people with you, it wouldn't be a shithole state.
You'd have to bring a whole city. What I'd be losing moving from D.C. to Wyoming is not fixable by bringing a few friends. Museums? Enough population that shows and bands play there regularly?
Also, who can actually convince friends and family to move themselves across the country to a shithole for politics? Have you done that?
The idea is to move there in enough numbers to overwhelm the GOP majority and make the state not be a shithole anymore.
Yeah, it's hard enough to get blue voters to stay in those red shitholes. Why would any sane person who already lives in a blue state want to move to a red one?
Who's going to give up their entire quality of life to be a small snowflake hoping to make an avalanche? For the politics, it's a very small contribution. But for the family, it's huge. You'd be losing job prospects, friends and family, activity availability, local politics, healthcare quality and access, and most importantly: being treated like a person if you aren't a right-wing cishet white male of means.
Almost no one's going to take that trade and they shouldn't.
It would be cool if democrats focused more on working class people, rather than just saying they do. That's literally all they need to do to win back millions of voters.
I totally get your sentiment here, but don't they do this by (at minimum at least) the legislation that they try to put in place? Student Loan forgiveness. Expanding educational opportunities. Access to healthcare. Providing more sustainable and green energy sources. Better pay and protections for working Americans. These initiatives constantly get shot down by the other side, and then people blame Democrats for not forcing it through. As long as we have one side actively torpedoing the other's efforts, we can't put the blame on the people trying to do something. Just my two cents though. Plus you have the uneducated people that align with conservatives that think they are the recipients of their platform's initiatives, when it really goes to the top 1%. So they stay in power to continue the grift.
You don't need a college degree to work in the trades. This is a point of contention because I've heard people say many times they don't want their tax dollars going towards someone's liberal arts degree. I'm a wastewater operator. I have a degree but allot of the people I work with don't.
I agree - we need a much higher focus on trades. My education angle wasn't towards post graduate though. My wife is an elementary school teacher and teachers are underfunded, continually having their curriculum watered down, and we are seeing across the board privatization of education and erosion of the foundation of education itself. That's diminishing access to education.
Conservatives are going to make it legal to outright murder progressives, so there's definitely safety in living in a blue state
This sort of stupidity doesn't help.
The wealthy want us to fight a culture war to distract us from the class war we should be having.
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Democracy is good for the oligarchs. Trump is a populist. The oligarchs definitely don't like him. Even the Koch family is against him.
You're being down voted, but you're correct.
It's such a weird time in the U.S.. Also, it might be a better choice to go to a battleground state.
That's what I did. Moved to AZ, which is a purple state, from CA. I joined a writing group here, and one member is an out gay conservative. No way could he have been that outspoken in a casual writing group in CA, he'd have been chased out.
As someone more on the liberal side of things in general, it's incredibly refreshing to be able to hold a good-natured conversation with him involved where he didn't feel worry or concern about discussing his ideas.
We have another lady in the group who writes hardcore far-left poetry, and those are always followed up by great conversations. She's nice and not condescending to the conservative guy.
I love being in a purple state, I wish more states were battleground states.
I joined a writing group here, and one member is an out gay conservative.
I find it unreal that an LGBTQ person would actually even consider the current Republican Party as a viable option.
How many of them do you talk to though? They certainly exsist, so seeking one out to talk about their experiences and views with might help you understand where they come from, even if you disagree with them.
I know a lot of people in the LGBTQ community. I have yet to meet someone who would vote for a Republican. But I'll certainly ask about it if I ever meet one.
I'm not surprised. Since the LGBTQ community is fairly political, they're not very accepting of LGBTQ people who don't align with them politically. There are lots of LGBTQ people who don't want to be part of the community because of how rigid it is in that regard.
These are what the LGBT people that I've met has said specifically.
Other than that, it's likely that there are some who lean conservative but don't speak up about it for fear of being shunned by the community.
The LGBTQ community is being assailed by the GOP at the moment. Literal physical threats. Whatever was left of support for the GOP from that community is quickly dissipating.
I don't know if you've misunderstood, but I'm not a conservative, I just enjoy having political discussions with them, especially when they seem to be a contradiction in today's world of party-line politics.
I live in a purple state in a rural area, and I HATE it. Not because there are conservatives, but because massive numbers of these conservatives are trembling with fear of the other and if they think that I am on their "side" for whatever reason, they won't hesitate to say the most ignorant, racist, bigoted shit about "those people" - essentially anyone who isn't straight and white, while demanding prayer of the exclusively evangelical variety in public meetings. Their world view is so insular that it's suffocating to be around.
Interesting. I don't live in a rural area, so maybe that's why I'm experiencing more of a balance. No one here that I know who are conservative say any of that stuff, and they didn't say it around me before they knew my political leanings, either.
This is part of the GOP strategy.
Senator Josh Hawley from Missouri has openly acknowledged that the GOP strategy is to make it so miserable for Democrats in red and purple states that they will move to blue states. That would, in turn, cement Republican power in the White House, Senate and thereby the Supreme Court.
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If I move it will be because my town was 110F in the shade Monday, not because my neighbors are morons.
Then we get to watch 100% Red states shoot, disease, and work themselves to death. Then we move back in and get their stuff.
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profit!
Well, this is no better than /r/politics. Enjoy your echo chamber, commies.
Yeah so many have been moving to Texas its ridiculous. We can't even build infrastructure quick enough. We're beyond full at this point.
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