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submitted 1 year ago by chockblock@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

For my phone, I use Graphene OS. What would be the best desktop Linux option to match the level of security and privacy that GOS provides?

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Pretty much any distro that isn't Ubuntu. Are you asking for privacy or security? Those are very different.

For security, I'd stick to more complete distros like Fedora instead of more diy distros like NixOS or Arch. They're great to learn and tinker with, but distros like Fedora have security experts adding mitigations and security stuff in the distro by default, whereas most users of Arch or something would have to manually look up those things and keep up to date on the latest security. So basically, none of them lol.

Using more hardcore security distros like QubesOS is not very realistic as a daily driver. You'll see Linux nerds name drop it and claim they know what they're talking about, but none of them will actually dailt drive it because it's a very painful experience. Just stick with flatpaks as much as you can for pretty solid security.

[-] gobbling871@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

What security stuff/mitigations are added on Fedora that are not on Ubuntu?

[-] Shareni@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

I think they meant privacy. Windonical doesn't have a good track record on that front...

[-] gobbling871@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Nope. GP explicitly mentioned security experts that Fedora employs and other security stuff that Fedora apparently has an advantage on over other distros. I wonder if they knew in particular what these advantages are because that got me curious.

[-] Shareni@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago

Read their comment again. The first paragraph is about privacy and Ubuntu is only mentioned at that point. Fedora's default security is only compared to nix and arch.

[-] gobbling871@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I used Ubuntu as an example for argument's sake not as a defence for Ubuntu's privacy/security features.

[-] RecursiveDescent@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Looks like they do add quite a bit security features. Having SELinux installed and working out of the box being the biggest. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Security_Features

[-] gobbling871@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

My question is simple: Which of these security features are not enabled/present in Ubuntu that give Fedora an advantage?

SELinux has a functional equivalent called Apparmor that is also enabled out of the box in most distros.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Selinux is more secure then app armor, but more difficult to use. Ubuntu is also pretty secure, I'm just not as familiar with it. I mentioned it for the privacy but, since it used to have some Amazon bloat crapped bundled and telemetry built in.

[-] gobbling871@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

I have nothing against your personal preferences. But maybe compare today's Ubuntu vs Fedora. It would be a much more fair comparison.

[-] I_like_cats@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago

Ubuntu is bad privacy-wise because it has opt-out telemetry. The telemetry is not very invasive though and I wouldn't really call it a privacy risk. There are other reasons to prefer other distros over Ubuntu though

[-] gobbling871@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Not making a case for Ubuntu but even Fedora has opt-out telemetry.

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