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submitted 3 days ago by HayadSont@discuss.online to c/linux@lemmy.ml

The following gif demonstrates folding:

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[-] HayadSont@discuss.online 1 points 10 hours ago

UPDATE: For posterity's sake, I'd like to reflect on the last couple of days.

First of all, I'd like to thank everyone that has contributed to the discussion! Were it not for your recommendations/suggestions/endorsements, then I might not have found a valid alternative.

Secondly, I've taken every single recommendation pretty seriously. As such, I've either installed them to see for myself if I was able to reproduce the functionality found in the gif found above. Or, didn't install them to begin with due to the suggested installation methods not passing through my (rather) strict policy on software. Regardless, in the end, I've only found two pieces of software that satisfied the bill: Kate and KDevelop.

KDevelop is pretty cool, but is more of an IDE rather than a text editor. As such, I've landed on Kate.

But, perhaps more than anything, I've come to really appreciate Emacs (and Neovim). And, perhaps more than ever, I feel ready to take them on 💪. Wish me luck 😊.

[-] barlog@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago
[-] HayadSont@discuss.online 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks for the recommendations! Helix doesn't seem to offer this functionality (yet). Unfortunately...

As for Zed, it does seem to be capable of reproducing the functionality found in the gif (or at least to some extent). However, installing it on my distro isn't pretty. Therefore, I wish to install it at some point, but I'll wait it out for now.

[-] greywolf0x1@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago
[-] HayadSont@discuss.online 1 points 1 day ago

Do you happen to have a lot of experience with other text editors (and/or IDEs)? If so, would you like to chime in and compare Zed to the ones you feel confident talking about?

Thanks in advance!

[-] spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

If you don't want to go the Emacs or Vim routes, try Kate. Neovim is amazing but Kate is too from what I hear. Similar support for LSPs.

[-] HayadSont@discuss.online 1 points 1 day ago

It's not that I don't want to go with Emacs or Neovim. Rather, I want to explore what else is out there.

As for Kate, thank you for its endorsement! I've tried Kate since making this post and it^[Together with KDevelop. Though it has to be noted that KDevelop IIUC seems to rely on Kate for this functionality.] has been the only one which has yielded a desirable result. I can wholeheartedly attest to its quality.

[-] the_wiz@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago
[-] HayadSont@discuss.online 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If you're not trolling, then I'd like to offer my apologies for assuming you were.

Perhaps I shouldn't feed the trolls, but I couldn't resist: does ed even support the functionality demonstrated in the gif above? I'm asking this from a genuine position of ignorance.

[-] the_wiz@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Honestly: Yeah, i was trolling (kind of), but:

I DO like to code via ED because the design and workflow of ED (or even better: Sam) makes folding unnecessary because you only put on the screen what is needed right at that moment. Want to see two functions 1000 lines apart? No problem, just print them right below each other on the screen.

[-] HayadSont@discuss.online 1 points 1 day ago

Interesting insights. Much appreciated!

I DO like to code via ED because the design and workflow of ED (or even better: Sam) makes folding unnecessary because you only put on the screen what is needed right at that moment. Want to see two functions 1000 lines apart? No problem, just print them right below each other on the screen.

Hmm..., I suppose this is a workflow I'd have to try out for myself before drawing any conclusions. Though, I got some questions:

  • Why ed? Isn't any other TUI/CLI text editor fit for the job? Apologies if I sound obtuse/obnoxious*. I'm probably just very ignorant of how ed fares compared to the others.
  • Is there any currently maintained version of Sam? A quick search suggests that everyone packaged/grabbed it from this github repo. But, unfortunately, that one has been archived since earlier this year. I suppose I could look into the many forks it has, but I'd rather be picky 😅. Got any pointers for me?
[-] the_wiz@feddit.org 1 points 7 hours ago

Why ed? Well, it keeps my brain from rotting 😀 just half joking... i have noticed that whenever i use a somewhat more "user friendly" software my mind starts to wander off more easily and instead of being more focussed on the programming task i shortly after find myself doing... $THING instead of being productive. So, being the only jack-of-all-trades-computer-guy in a small-ish company i tend to chose the tools that work for me, even if they are a bit... anachronistic.

I think the best maintained version of Sam would be the one included in 9front (if you want some truely special experience) or if you want to stay (somewhat) in the realm of the sane you can use plan9port which also brings in many nice tools out of the Plan9 ecosystem.

[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Will probably get airstriked for this, but Zed is also a option.

Also, if you're using GNOME, then try GNOME builder. And if you're using KDE, then try KDevelop or Kate.

[-] HayadSont@discuss.online 1 points 1 day ago

Thank you for your recommendations!

Hopefully I'll get around to take Zed for a test drive in the near future.

As for GNOME Builder, for some reason, I wasn't able to replicate what's seen above with it. Perhaps it doesn't support Markdown that well. Or..., it needs/requires a plugin to do its bidding. Would you happen to know more on this? Any help is appreciated!

KDevelop and Kate, on the other hand, have been a very pleasant surprise. I have literally checked about a dozen of text editors since yesterday, and these two have been the only ones that have yielded the desired result. Props and kudos to the dev team!

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[-] anon5621@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 days ago

Kate,kdevelop,xed,mousepad,gnome builder.,notepad next(clone notepad++)

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[-] Mwa@thelemmy.club 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Geany(Its a lightweight GTK Based IDE)

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[-] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

There's also Zed. And helix.

Amongst all the other great alts here

Also neovim is really dope! Just have to throw that there

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[-] flubba86@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

On windows: Notepad++. On Linux-based OS: Kate. And there's also JetBrains Fleet, that is jetbrains answer to vscode.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Kate is for Windows and Mac as well

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