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Plex has paywalled my server! (lemmy.giftedmc.com)

I tried testing a movie from my home server in plex through firefox and repeatedly got this message, even after reloading.

I knew that they had paywalled the apps on mobile and streaming from outside the network but now they have also blocked watching your own movies through your own hardware.

I do get the point that making software should be able to sustain people but I dont see the move of plex as a fair thing to do. Yes, they have made great software but taking your home server hostage feels like the wrong move.

Even a pop up that says "we need you to donate please" would have been fine. make it pop up before every movie, play donation ads before any movie but straight up disabling the app is kinda cruel.

Anyway, i have switched to jellyfin and it is insanely good. please give it a try. you can run it alongside plex with not issues (at least i had none) and compare the two.

In any case, good luck. Let me know if you need help.

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 61 points 1 month ago

Every non-Free Software will betray you eventually. It's only a matter of time.

[-] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago
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[-] Kirk@startrek.website 44 points 1 month ago

Jellyfin is great, but in defense of Plex, they announced that remote streaming would require one of the two parties to have a Plex pass was coming back in March so I don't know if it's fair to say they are holding anything hostage.

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

I started down the Jellyfin path after they made that announcement. It's super easy to install, and in many ways the UI is nicer than Plex. But I ran into challenges getting my server safely accessible for users outside my LAN. And I haven't had the time to look into that further.

Would be great if there was a clean, easy way to set up the webserver portion so it's as easy to share content entirely as Plex. But I get they are a volunteer project with a lot on their plate.

[-] easydnesto@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

I have had great success with tailscale in this regard.

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 10 points 1 month ago

The same tailscale that announced last week that they are going to start charging?

https://tailscale.com/kb/1251/pricing-faq

[-] Bubs@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Took a quick look at the free tier,

  • 3 users
  • 100 devices
  • Basically all tailscale features

That seems pretty reasonable to me. Main account and two accounts to share. With just friends and family, I doubt most people will reach the 100 device limit.

[-] morriscox@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Creating a tailnet using a custom domain is considered for business use.

Well, that sucks for me. I was planning on using my domain name.

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[-] sudo@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago

But I ran into challenges getting my server safely accessible for users outside my LAN

FWIW:

  1. vps + domain (optional?)
  2. connect vps to home server with wireguard (eg Tailscale)
  3. reverse proxy on the VPS forwarding to jellyfin (eg Caddy)

Obviously not as trivial or seamless as Plex. Also I wouldn't try to complicate this setup by using docker for everything. But once its up you can basically host whatever you want on the WAN from your LAN.

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[-] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 month ago

If they’re calling it remote streaming when you’re on the same (local) network, that’s not exactly intuitive. I’d say OP’s phrasing was fair.

[-] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago

OP has a misconfigured server and isn't connecting to their server over LAN.

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[-] UxyIVrljPeRl@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Welp, i killed mine yesterday as it wouldnt let me stream while offline. Modem died so no Internet for me. Why do i have everything local if it dosent work while offline...

[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 12 points 1 month ago

Exactly. Thats why i use jellyfin now. Try installing it alongside. For me it worked well.

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[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 18 points 1 month ago

Old news, but time for Jellyfin. I made the switch a couple months ago. Some minor teething issues, but better, IMO, especially now as my family all have LDAP users and that just works.

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[-] ISolox@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Why anyone still uses Plex for new setups is beyond me.

[-] CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

pretty much the only reason I still use Plex is because I like to be able to watch stuff during downtime at work and plex.tv isn't blocked on the work network while my private domain is.

And no, using a hotspot off my phone on a personal computer isn't an option, both because the security requirements of my job site prevent us from using personal devices in the main area where I work and because the building itself is a massive concrete structure that blocks most cell signals.

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[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

In this thread:

  1. An OP that doesn’t understand how their network is working
  2. People rushing to suggest a solution that they fawn over because it’s open source. I have yet to see anyone recommend Emby.
  3. “Tailscale will solve all your problems!” Great - how do I make that work on an LG TV that’s 100 miles away?
[-] tabular@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
  1. Open source has high immunity to devs making changes at the expense of user for their benefit because anti-features can be removed. Recommending another proprietary alternative here would be like saying they aught to leave an abusive partner but then recommend someone with the same red flags they had.
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[-] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

3 - An OpenWRT router with Wireguard connecting to another router 1000 miles away will do the trick.

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[-] psychadlligoat@piefed.social 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Someone else already said it and you've already swapped but I'll say it in detail:

when setting the server connection up you selected "ServerName (long string of numbers)" and not "ServerName (your IP - SECURE)"

this routes your connection through the Plex servers and makes it not a local connection anymore. this is extremely easy to do and forget you've done because it barely impacts performance

[-] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

In other words, it's a dark pattern that tricks users into letting Plex MITM their connection.

[-] kogasa@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago

It gets around port forwarding/firewall issues that most people don't know how to deal with. But putting it behind a paywall kinda kills any chance of it being a benevolent feature.

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[-] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Are you saying that you’re on your home network with your Plex server and it won’t let you play your media without paying? That’s not true if so. You must be outside the network.

[-] JordanZ@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My guess is they have VLANs and they didn’t set up the server to treat them as local traffic.

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[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 month ago

Plex has paywalled my server!

Skill issue tbh.

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[-] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago

Plex has pay walled FREE servers streaming to FREE clients only.

If you have a plex watch pass (for client) you're good and can stream from any server. If you have a plex pass (for server) any one can stream from your server. But you have to have one or the other.

[-] MSids@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

For software I like made by people getting paid, I was happy to pay the one time fee. It's really good, secure, and downloads are fast now.

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Best 70-ish euro I spent over a decade ago

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[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

What about switching to Jellyfin?

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[-] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Access via IP address and not the name. I've been having to do it that way for several days now, too.

Edit to add: It's due to a change I made in my OpnSense setup. I restored a ZFS snapshot and it's working again as it should.

[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 4 points 1 month ago

So its a thing. Very interesting. Thanks for confirming. Have you tried jellyfin? i switched now and it works great.

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[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

Remote, yes, they announced you need Plex pass one side or the other for it to work.

Local, no, that shouldn't happen. Your device isn't reaching your Plex server locally.

To work around the remote issue, you can VPN to your local network.

But you're better off in the long haul with Jellyfin as you're doing now.

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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

It's pretty rare that a company starts taking away free features and doesn't end up fucking payers in the end.

The biggest bar to Jellyfin is TV clients, the second biggest is security.

TV clients can be fixed with a one-time purchase of a $20 android TV stick. If viewing your familys ARR content isn't worth $20 you probably don't need to do it anyway.

Security for remote streaming is a harder thing to handle. Most people are capable of port forwarding, But just hanging a smallish public project out there in the open is always a dicey proposition. It honestly needs real fail2ban, probably SSL, 2FA and password complexity requirements.

We could probably make a jellyfin helper container to handle some of this. Walk people through Let's Encrypt, dynDNS, port forwarding tests, add fail2ban with a firewall, maybe even slap suricata in it.

We need to convince the project to add 2FA and password complexity requirements.

I don't know guys what do you think is it crazy? does it make sense? Would anybody actually use it?

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[-] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As was stated on the first post you made about this, it's a dns or nat reflection issue.

Plex sees you accessing it through your external IP address, and not through your lan IP.

I had a similar problem, and had to roll back some nat changes I made, and now it's working fine again.

Meanwhile, free remote streaming works fine if you have a proper VPN setup. I just tested it, and was able to stream to my phone, through the Plex app, over my tailscale VPN, and I do not have Plex pass on the server or on my phone...

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