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[-] koper@feddit.nl 112 points 2 weeks ago

“You’re telling me none of these people shop on Amazon?” said New Orleans native Jake Springer, who, along with his wife, was spending a weekend in Venice on a wine tour through Italy. “At least they are protesting peacefully. Americans could learn a thing or two from this.”

They found the dumbest possible American to give a comment.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

To be fair, it's not that difficult.

At least they found one that could form a coherent sentence.

[-] Brokkr@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

As an American, I think finding the dumbest of us would be hard given the amount of competition.

[-] Zombie@feddit.uk 32 points 2 weeks ago

I didn't think it was that hard at all, he's in the news every day!

[-] grober_Unfug@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

FFS, why does Trump look like he’s about to suck cock in every damn picture?

[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

Muscle memory.

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[-] Bosht@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

Seeing as they are on a wine tour, it's probably another out of touch millionaire

[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

Wine tours are maybe a couple hundred dollars. We do 'em pretty often. Great deal and you often get a tour of the countryside as well. If you're ever in the Kelowna, BC area, check it out.

[-] DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago

A couple hundred feels like out-of-touch money to me.

[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

Not exactly millionaire money, though. It's a fun vacation option and fairly reasonable as those go.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You're going to spend 1 to 1.8k or such on the flights alone when coming from the US. Plus of course, as a yank, being able to afford to have a free day at all.

I get it most yanks are broke but a couple hundred are not much in terms of holiday money. Cheap hotels are going to cost you 25 to 50 Euros per night alone. Mallorca 4-star all-inclusive incl. plane tickets about 1k per person, seven nights. That's groceries for a year if you know what you're doing, or a bit more than two months of German welfare (the raw disposable payout, rent, heating, and health insurance is separate). Monthly net income on minimum wage ~1.6k, you'll probably spend most of your holidays in Balconia but if you want, yep, the Baleares are affordable. Trekking from hostel to hostel? Even more so, that's student-level holidays. Drinking wine while doing it? Depending on country, cheaper than beer. So, no, it's not out of touch. It's just not ameripoor.

Couple of days in Venice? There's camping grounds all around, bring a camper (I know, investment, but you can also rent them) or a tent. Commute into the city, if you buy anything... well ideally just don't it's all a tourist trap.

The average American has less than $300 in their bank account. There is no county in the US where somebody making the median salary can afford the average cost of a house for that county.

Vacationing in Europe and going on wine tours would sound like a once-in-a-lifetime trip for the majority of Americans.

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[-] biofaust@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Them protesting peacefully is exactly why Bezos will eventually get things his way.

Please notice that Brugnaro, mayor of Venice, is politically spawned out of Berlusconi's party, Forza Italia.

Italian lesson: "Dio li fa, e poi li accoppia": "God makes them, and then pairs them"

[-] Ronno@feddit.nl 10 points 2 weeks ago

Americans seem to overestimate how big Amazon is here in Europe. Most people I know rarely buy anything off Amazon, a couple have Amazon Prime to watch content on, but that's mostly it.

[-] koper@feddit.nl 10 points 2 weeks ago

But even if you do buy on Amazon sometimes, why should that make you on board with surrendering your city to this billionaire? It's part of this toxic obsession of finding minor 'gotchas'/hypocrisies instead of debating substance. You MUST subscribe to every belief of team A and hate everything from team B.

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[-] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 5 points 2 weeks ago

You seem to underestimate it though. Amazon is pretty big here as well, even just considering the "buy stuff" parts.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Both are probably wrong so would be nice to have data instead. Here in Belgium checking out from postal workers deliveries or on recycling garbage day I can see a lot of Amazon parcels unfortunately. Your observation is not wrong, neither is mine, so the question rather is how relevant they are when scaled to all of Europe.

[-] Treetrimmer@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

I was listening to an NPR segment asking American tourists at a French vineyard what they thought of the tariffs and they also managed to find the biggest group of dipshit chads they could

[-] swemg@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Man, talk about being fucking disconnected from the rest of the world.

It's of course impossible to know if it was intentional, but lets not forget - platforming the dumb drives engagement, one of the reasons our view of the world is distorted towards thinking people are worse than they are. (Don't get me wrong, people aren't great on average, and broadly follow the lowest common denominator trends - but especially with terminally online people, there is a huge problem with paranoia and defeatism thanks to that dynamic).

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[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 48 points 2 weeks ago

“You’re telling me none of these people shop on Amazon?” said New Orleans native Jake Springer, who, along with his wife, was spending a weekend in Venice on a wine tour through Italy. “At least they are protesting peacefully. Americans could learn a thing or two from this.”

[-] Rooskie91@discuss.online 15 points 2 weeks ago

That person sounds absolutely insufferable.

[-] CMLVI@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Lmao the governors tell people to run over protestor here if they are in the street. Both methods block travel in the city, Venice is just specifically aimed at inconveniencing Bezos rather than the general populace.

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[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 48 points 2 weeks ago

People of Venice! The time has come to show the world what you're made of, and more importantly, what you've got inside.

Let the canals bear witness to your courage. Not with arms, but with... offerings. I want to see a million floating turds on that sacred day. Let this wedding be remembered. Not for love, but for sheer intestinal audacity.

Take a stand, take a squat, and defecate for dignity.

Fate la storia. Fate galleggiare la gloria.

[-] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

If they do anything to prevent things from floating through, get out your waffle stompin' boots, Venice!

[-] biofaust@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Moeche can feed on billionaires. Just sayin'.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 47 points 2 weeks ago

Though the details of the Bezos wedding are highly guarded beyond the rumored $10-million budget

Ok so I'm not going to say that we all need to eat dirt so long as anyone is worse off than we are, but that's a lot of money that could be spent on anything else.

I'm not christian but camel through the eye of a needle, man. You can't be a good person when you're sitting on that much wealth, and Bezos isn't even trying.

[-] remon@ani.social 24 points 2 weeks ago

Well, Italy does have a lot of Luigis ... so there is hope.

[-] selfdefense420@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

i mean, honestly, here's europe's chance to do what they claim americans are too scared to do.

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[-] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 weeks ago

Fuck you Bezos

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Bezos’ is hardly the only high-dollar wedding to be held in the city — not least George and Amal Clooney’s nuptials in 2014, which were cheered on by locals.

Yeah don't confuse the Clooneys for Bezos, please. Whether an actor should be a half-billionaire is up for debate but if anyone should have that kind of money yes it's artists, sportsball players, etc. That is, don't confuse celebrities and feudal lords. Venice is an ancient and serene republic, have some self-respect.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 2 weeks ago

Whether an actor should be a half-billionaire is up for debate but if anyone should have that kind of money yes it’s artists, sportsball players, etc.

Why would it be more fair for them than CEOs? I'm not defending this one but asking in general.

[-] barryamelton@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Artists are on a gift-based economy. They gain status by giving away works. If you are the best artist in the world but don't make an effort to share your works, you are irrelevant. The more they give away the more they are recognised. Even if they give them away via pirated works. See: movies, songs that everybody knows and resonates with. Status is their currency, not money.

The status then allows them to obtain more money than other people, incidentally.

CEOs are on a market-based economy, they sell goods and services for money. They don't sell their status. The goods and services they sell are not theirs, but created with the stolen sweat, blood and lives of the people that work for them, which get a minuscule share of the profit for the amount of life they put onto it.

In gift-based economies such as the ones of artists, open source developers, fashion, cultures without scarcities of the specific resource that makes the economy (such as small plentiful tropical tribes, communes, etc), the status is the currency.

[-] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Artists give. When they actually work. At their real jobs. Dubno if they deserve more than scientists or steel workers, but if it turns out we do actually need inequaluty and theres a lottery for which professions make you rich, i won't begrudge them a win.

Ceo's take, ruin, defile everything they touch. The meth addict who wanders around the city pissing on things is closer to a net positive than a ceo. The MBA and its various spawn was the final genocidal victory lap of the confederacy, and their purée must all soak the soil before the tree of freedom can grow.

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[-] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

George Clooney is rich. Jeff bezos is wealthy

[-] Zwrt@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 weeks ago

Devided? Between who?

Checks article: And Its berween the people who have lives there versus the ruling class who are about to profit because of course.

[-] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I could have sworn this dude got married in Aspen and spent $600M on it. They shutdown the airport for it even because of all the private traffic

How many times are they tying the knot?

[-] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

Every time they update the prenup.

[-] defaultsamson@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago

Recently visited Venice, and it was an excellent place.

From my observations, there is not really a place for big business there; no big roads, hardly any trains, essentially no commercial transport besides small boats. In a place as such, goliaths like Amazon are likely out-competed by local businesses.

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

Sto cazzo…fottetelo.

[-] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

It warms my heart.

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