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I really don't like the design of the progress pride flag, and I couldn't really put my finger on it until I saw this: https://nava.org/good-flag-bad-flag

For reference, here is the flag I'm referencing as "bad flag":

And here is the original:

So, the original has too many colors, but it's the colors of the rainbow. In order. It's recognizable from really far away, and it's dead simple to draw.

With the Intersex flag, that's 14 colors. There are three shades of "purple". The circle won't be visible from far away. The chevrons are too thin to be very recognizable from far away.

It's not like there aren't good pride flags. Like there are AMAZING ones:

Edit:

In case you don't know what these are: https://flagsforgood.com/collections/pride-flags

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[-] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago
[-] Hugin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I'm of the option that the original rainbow flag is still the best. It was meant to include everyone under the rainbow so trans people and others are already included.

Who owns the intellectual property of these flags?

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 1 week ago

I believe the progress one is less open than the classic six striped

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The progress flag is copyrighted by one Daniel Quasar, and he sporadically exercises his copyright on people who use or sell designs involving the progress flag. Or so I've heard. Anyway, for this reason, I avoid using it.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

What annoys me about takes like this is that it seems to be appealing to some sort of council of gays who are in charge of the flags. Nobody is. There's no "official" flag. If you don't like the progress flag or the intersex version of it then just don't fly them or design your own that you do like. Nobody is stopping you. A ton of the pride flags in use today are just designed by random Tumblr users in the mid '10s. Which is fine, not hating on them, just making sure you know there is nothing stopping you from making one you like or flying the ones you prefer.

[-] jsomae@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

This is the very reason I'm surprised. These flags come and go by the winds of memetics; so why is it that this design is somehow able to propagate so well despite being so clearly visually incoherent?

I'm not necessarily complaining, I'm just astonished that it caught on. Like imagine if a really discordant and structureless song became super popular.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

I fly the original pride progress flag on my house and I really like it. If it is shocking to you that not everyone agrees with what makes a flag look good look no further than the US's state flags. They're a mess. They're all over the place. People have different tastes. I think the "state seal on blue background" is bad but clearly enough people in those places don't dislike it enough to change it.

pride flag

[-] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 week ago

Its purpose isn't to be aesthetically pleasing. Trans people and POC are constantly discriminated against by other queers, and intersex people rarely are even acknowledged to exist at all, let alone treated as anything else than disgusting or sex object.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

This here boggles my mind. Why would you discriminate against others when you yourself know what discrimination feels like?

[-] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago

Strange is the world of bigotry.

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[-] stinky@redlemmy.com 0 points 1 week ago

This is my take too. I don't care how appealing the flag looks, but it needs to call out discrimination.

[-] db2@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

Flags are stupid in the first place though. All flags, it's nothing to do with these specifically.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago

Agreed.

Though I do think that if progressive-minded people were more apt to fly the American flag at protests, it would be harder to criticize them.

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