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Useless. Time for the Social Democrats to form their own party.

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[-] wpb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

But still, even when you go to more politically aware places (like lemmy), you'll get mocked for suggesting America is rules by a uniparty when it comes to American inperialism. It's unbelievably fucking stupid.

[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

AOC might be testing the party. She should know who is going to vote for impeachment before the vote.
Apparently there are still majority of congress critters who will ride the horse of greed right into the ground then think they can call a cab.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago

There are probably a dozen things they could (and should) impeach Trump for. This isn't actually one of them. Presidents are authorized to do air strikes.

The left is usually not as ignorant of the facts as the right, but this is one of those cases where the left is ignoring the facts. The President has authorization from Congress to do limited military action. Should all of the Presidents before been impeached for doing similar one-off air strikes? Seems you want to impeach Trump based on dumb memes about this being the start of WWIII rather it being an air strike.

Did Obama get impeached for sending a SEAL Team into Pakistan without getting authorization from congress?

Also Iran does in fact have a nuclear weapons program. The civilian reactor is supplied Uranium from Russia that's already enriched to around 5% which is what you use for civilian energy generation. Iran had Uranium enriched to 60% which isn't useful for civilian reactors and none of the Uranium enriched in Iran is used in their one civilian nuclear reactor. The UN has reported that Iran is keeping secrets from them and there's been an increase in their Uranium enrichment, which again is entirely a weapons program, the uranium for civilian use comes from Russia.

So congratulations, instead of impeaching Trump for doing all of the corruption, or for deploying Marines on US soil without authorization, or for falsely declaring everything an emergency so he can do stupid tariff stuff, you've created a narrative that the left tried to impeach him for protecting Americans from the "Death to America" country's nuclear weapons. I guess the left is fine with the corruption and deploying the military within the US, but only take action to come to the defense of the Ayatollah's nuclear weapons program.

The left only seems to want to attack Trump when they have non-existent chance of winning or even convincing anyone of their position. On issues where the left has a strong case, they do nothing.

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If your claim is that the strike is justified because you believe that Iran has an illegal nuke program, then do you also agree that Israel should be bombed to oblivion because we know that they have an illegal nuke program?

Does the fact that the strike was made when all intel insisted that there was no justification for it matter at all in this, or does past evils justify all future evils?

In the past we very publicly killed Nazis. By your logic can we do the same today?

Also, btw, Obama was in power during a time of declared war.

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago

If your claim is that the strike is justified because you believe that Iran has an illegal nuke program, then do you also agree that Israel should be bombed to oblivion because we know that they have an illegal nuke program?

Are you saying the world is supposed to be fair? If Iran launches a nuke at Tel Aviv and 2 million people die and Israel retaliates and nukes Tehran and 2 million people die, that would be fair. Even Stevens!

I'd rather live in an unfair world than live in your fair world because I'm not a psychopath that thinks 4 million people is a good outcome.

Does the fact that the strike was made when all intel insisted that there was no justification for it matter at all in this, or does past evils justify all future evils?

Read the IAEA report: https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/statements/iaea-director-generals-introductory-statement-to-the-board-of-governors-9-june-2025

I don't have the security clearances needed to see the intel and I strongly doubt you do (if you did you wouldn't be blabbing about it a web forum). But we do have publicly available information from the subject experts at the IAEA that Iran was enriching more Uranium and was hiding things from the UN.

[-] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Hello AI friend! Nice grammar and spelling.

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[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

This goes to show that the problem isn't Trump or the Republicans, the problem is the United States of America. The only way things are going to get better is if America is removed from its position of global power and influence. If you care about fighting fascism and tyranny, you need to boycott American products, refuse to work for American companies and, if you're already working for an American company and can't quit, drop your productivity as far as possible. Do everything in your power to damage the American economy and reduce their power.

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[-] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Huh?! But it's clear grounds for impeachment! I hope everyone starts flooding their inboxes and phone lines...

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[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Democrats are the enemy as well at this point. They are in no way interested in stopping Trump. They are complicit just as Republicans and the media.

[-] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] Bosht@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Fucking seriously??? These assholes could finally do something and the roll over. Pieces of shit.

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[-] twice_hatch@midwest.social 0 points 2 weeks ago

I wonder what the reasoning is. Do they really hate the idea of Iran having nukes? Do they really like keeping Israel as an ally? I don't know, as a regular voter, what Israel does for us. They seem very unpopular

[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

It's important for the Jews to control the reigon before the apocalypse can start.

It's the core defining beleif of Evangelical Christians, which the Republican party has been controlling with corrupt pastors since at least the Nixon administration

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[-] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago

The reasoning is that basically every president in the last 5 decades or so has used the existing laws that generally permit presidents to use military force without first getting congressional approval. If that were unconstitutional then the laws should have been changed, but they're allowed to stand, so it's basically not. It's a bit of a silly thing to try to impeach over. The precedence of that being constitutional is massive.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org -1 points 2 weeks ago

They pay your politicians so that your politicians take your tax money and buy Israel guns with it from your arms companies, who give your politicians money so that your politicians buy their guns and send them to Israel.

They also destabilize a region with hundreds of millions of people, whose countries have vast resources and sit on critical trade routes. If people in West Asia were united, they would quickly move on to become a geopolitical power-house rivaling the EU. if all Muslim countries were to work together, they would be the global superpower.

Oh and of course racism. Lots of racism and murdering brown people. The US and many European countries love that.

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[-] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Well, obviously. Did everyone just collectively forget that the constitution allows for a president to take military action without congressional approval for 90 days? What he did was clearly the wrong move, but I'm pretty sure it's constitutional. Honestly, the problem is the constitution itself.

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[-] Hellsfire29@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

It was a useless impeachment attempt anyway. If Trump wins the Nobel peace prize for this, how much merit would an impeachment hold regarding said incident?

Pretty ridiculous. Now you're just grasping for anything to stick.

Presidents don't always need approval for military actions, just ask Obama, Biden, Clinton.

It'd be a waste of money. 128 Democrats realized that. You just want him impeached because you hate him no matter what he does.

He can solve world peace and you'd still hate him. Oh wait......

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

Traitors, every last one

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

First of all, this is bullshit - every one of the 128 Democrats needs to be primaried out asap. (which of them are up in midterms?)

Second of all, this is another deliberate swipe at AOC and this will not stand, man.

Thirdly - however. We did this with Gee Dubz in early 2000s. Launching a missile strike without Congress' input was already hashed out, and the president can do it. They did it by some bullshit where "going to war" is a whole seal, stamp, and magic incantation hullaballoo. If you remember Hillary voting for the Iraq War II, that was what that was about - they got to a point where Gee Dubz time had run out and he would either have to cut the shit or Congress would have to let him do it. Yes, Dems ate shit back then too, yes. NOT ALL - we had AOCs back then too. But the old ones were "only" sixty back then.

Fourthly - this was never going to go anywhere because we'd need 20 House republiQans to give up their lucrative careers to join in the effort which would then die in the Senate again.

And Lastly - I don't know what 128 Democrats got for what will be costly to them personally, but it was something. Was it worth it? Let's make sure it was not.

[-] Phegan@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

Liberals are against every war except the current one.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 weeks ago

Nobody who said "blue no matter who" in 2024 is allowed to say "what the actual fuck" at this.

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