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Desktop PTSD (lemmy.zip)
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alt text: Scene of The Punisher where he is desperate having a nightmare, captioned "When a tiling window manager user has to use a MacOS/Windows desktop"

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[-] Sidhean@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

Using Windows feels like wading through mud. eeeuch

[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 17 points 1 month ago

The real crime is how MacOS window animations take forever and don't switch input focus immediately.

[-] dukatos@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 month ago

And if you disable animations, you still have to wait for focus. But the worst behavior is when you minimize a window and later cmd+tab to it and all windows just lose focus.

[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Maybe I’m weird, but I prefer the animations. It feels more natural than things just popping into my view in my opinion.

[-] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

I don't take issue with the animations per se. They could be faster and transfer input immediately, and I would take no issue.

[-] sanderium@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

That is true, animations can make your brain understand that something changed position faster than if they teleported.

[-] maxwells_daemon@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Wdym mouse? Might as well give me a touchscreen...

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Mac has an absence of window management. it's like the product owner stopped thinking halfway through the desktop experience and handed it over to the intern.

when demo day came the PO saw it and was shocked at how horrible it was but had to sell it to save their own ass.

they opened the whole demo with, "I want you to think about this experience and stop, then...think differently."

[-] Bonje@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago
[-] sanderium@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I should add that Aerospace release update to my wm community aswell

[-] littleomid@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

Aerospace is too buggy for my taste. Hadn’t heard of yabai though.

[-] Beacon@fedia.io 9 points 1 month ago

There are tiling window managers for win and mac too, so i don't think this meme makes sense

[-] sudo@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago

"Window Managers" don't exist on windows and mac. There's third party programs that re-position your windows. But you can't replace the window manager for these OSs. AFAIK they don't have a concept of a window manager. Its all one seemless desktop experience.

Love to be proven wrong or at least shown an adequate alternate. Because pic is me in a few weeks. Goodbye slack, google, and zoom. Hello M$ TEAMS.

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

I use Amethyst on Mac and it's quite good but it is a fancy repositioning system because it bugs out a few times a day and I need to force a refresh.

[-] Beacon@fedia.io 2 points 1 month ago

I'm not clear on what the distinction is that you're referring to. How are the Linux window managers different than the win/mac ones?

[-] muix@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Window managers in Linux take direct command from the display server (Xorg, Wayland, etc.) to decide where to position windows and what they should look like. Whereas "window managers" on MacOS/Windows are tricking the original window manager provided by the OS into positioning windows a certain way. I'm simplifying here, but hope that clears things up.

[-] Beacon@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

Thanks for the info, but what is the functional difference to the end user?

[-] Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

They're limited by what the original window manager allows them to do. Sway has its whole own window manager, so it can do whatever it wants.

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[-] sudo@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Window_manager

  • Stacking (aka floating) window managers provide the traditional desktop metaphor used in commercial operating systems like Windows and macOS. Windows act like pieces of paper on a desk, and can be stacked on top of each other. For available Arch Wiki pages see Category:Stacking window managers.
  • Tiling window managers "tile" the windows so that none are overlapping. They usually make very extensive use of key-bindings and have less (or no) reliance on the mouse. Tiling window managers may be manual, offer predefined layouts, or both. For available Arch Wiki pages see Category:Tiling window managers.
  • Dynamic window managers can dynamically switch between tiling or floating window layout. For available Arch Wiki pages see Category:Dynamic window managers.

Mac and Windows window managers aren't different from Linux window managers. (Other than being difficult or impossible to replace). What you are calling "window managers" are software that reposition the windows after the actual window manager has positioned it.

[-] Ziglin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Most people forced to use those likely wouldn't have time/permission to install them.

[-] sanderium@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I know there are, the point is to show that FOSS window managers users moved away from commercial enshittified desktop experiemce and are traumatized by it. Basically laughing at my own experiemce with desktop environments.

[-] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

I don't use Windows anymore but Microsoft Powertoys exist. And I have no clue why they don't ship it with Windows by default...

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[-] sudo@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago

This me. Gonna set up RDP and just remote in from my desktop. I'd rather find a new job than be that unproductive.

[-] RandomLegend@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Installed komorebi + altdrag + autohotkey + fluent search on my work windows, janky af but "works"

[-] Ooops@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago

As much as I despise Windows while also using archlinux/i3-wm as my daily driver...

Tiling is no rocket science. Basically every stacking window manager including Windows can do it well enough to be usable with just a few properly configured defaults and short-keys.

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

I use Rectangle whenever I need to do some tiling go decent effect.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Aren't most windows already some form of rectangle? /s

[-] sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Outlook has a ChatGPT tab now. Good times good times.

[-] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

yabai on mac is the most wm like experience

[-] Obnomus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Can confirm

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I’ve been working on my own macOS tiling window manager inspired by Gtile for gnome. I’ll probably put it on github at some point.

[-] sanderium@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

That is dope man!

[-] Outsider9042@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Too real. Haven’t used Windows in over 20 years. New job has locked down SOE laptops. I’m not even allowed to install putty without permission.

I use niri btw.

[-] Interstellar_1@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

The reverse for me lol. Mouse-heavy user here

[-] POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.com 0 points 1 month ago

Okay give me the short and simple. What window manager should I try. I'm using an off shoot of Fedora.

[-] foxido@social.cutie.team 1 points 1 month ago

Hyprland is awesome. Simple config + good out of the box experience

But for almost all tiling managers I recommend you steal your first config from r/unixporn and then just adapt it

@POTOOOOOOOO@reddthat.com @sanderium@lemmy.zip

[-] crabonhead@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I quite like Hyprland

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