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[-] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

I highly encourage anyone that doesn’t want to ever have kids, to go get tied or snipped so that you won’t ever have to worry about it.

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 3 weeks ago

And if you're in a conservative hell state in the United States where doctors refuse to do a tubal ligation unless you have one child, are over 30, or "get your (nonexistent) husband to sign off on it", find a doctor in Washington, California, Massachusetts, or really any non Republican dumpster fire, and they'll likely treat you like an adult. Likely. Not bitter about that at all.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 3 weeks ago

One of my best friends had endo. She tried to get it fixed (she is not straight and never wanted kids) and she was told “no, there’s other options, we’re not doing a hysterectomy” multiple times.

I believe it was her third suicide attempt after being admitted multiple other times for self harm that they finally took her shit out.

She’s been fine since then. No suicide-inducing pain, no debilitation, no problem. You’re right—it’s fucking insane that it has to come to that.

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I won't do this until we have a surgery that allows you to turn your sperm production on and off at any time with the push of a button.

I don't want kids but I may want them someday, and I rather not have to go through surgery twice and spend a bunch of money just because I changed my mind.

[-] morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 3 weeks ago

How would you feel about adopting?

I got snipped and then got married to someone who already had a kid, so I ended up being a (step-)parent anyway. But I told my doctor that if I ever changed my mind, I would adopt.

[-] deaddigger@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Good news everyone! That already exists. https://bimek.com/

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[-] pachrist@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Just want to drop this here.

Birth control is great.

Some methods of birth control are bad for you specifically. Not all birth control is equal. You are a complex piece of equipment. Birth control alters the way that equipment works. There are side effects, no matter what, and they are listed because the were well documented in clinical trials.

That does not mean you should not use birth control. It means you should work with your doctor to find the one that works best for you.

My wife tried a birth control medication that had an interaction with another medication and made her very drousy. My sister took one that made her feel suicidal. They shopped around and found something that worked.

[-] AngryPancake@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago
[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Or everyone can look at the variety of options and decide what's best for them at any given time.

Condoms are a great option, and they have the added bonuses of also protecting against STIs and being able to work alongside pharmaceutical contraception. That last bit is big because if you're absolutely unwilling to have kids and abortion is illegal or something you're unwilling to do you probably want to be using two methods.

I'm the first to praise condoms especially with people choosing not to vaccinate their children against HPV and with the fact that they're how one can be certain that they don't impregnate anyone else. But they too have downsides including that most people aren't very good at using them.

[-] simsalabim@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Condoms are fine if you want to protect from STIs, but they’re less effective than other hormone based contraceptives to prevent conceptions.

[-] pachrist@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

And much, much, much more expensive.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah. Summarizing this, BC has a lot of side effects, but pregnancy has even more.

Frankly, I'm hoping that RISUG makes it to the US. I would get two reversible injections in the crotch to basically prevent pregnancy with zero side effects.

[-] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for mentioning this. Never heard of that before. So we have a almost 100% effective, one-time use, most likely reversible, cheap contraceptive that is free of unwanted side effects. sadly it would lessen the profit of pharmaceutical companies, so we can't have it. too bad.

yay for capitalism!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_inhibition_of_sperm_under_guidance#Availability_and_marketing

[-] bytesonbike@discuss.online 12 points 3 weeks ago

Look into open-source apps. You're on freakin' Lemmy.

[-] sailorzoop@lemmy.librebun.com 3 points 3 weeks ago
[-] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

I think we just need to type louder.

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[-] pawnfuture@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

The states that imposed these Draconian laws have terrible maternal mortality rates now and they're trying to hide the data so they don't have to acknowledge the harm they did. Same way it was during COVID where some state governments like Florida were attacking independent investigators for having accurate numbers when the state changed theirs to try and look better.

[-] architectonas@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Sure, the general "birth control is bad for you" message is not optimal. But the root of this misinformation are insights about the side effects coming up more or less recently. iirc one third to half of all women on hormonal birth control experience major side effects like headaches, nausea or mood changes. I can see how these significant findings combined with patriarchy awareness and associated anger led to exaggerated messages.

Nonetheless, I think people thinking more critically about birth control is a good thing as one should always consider both benefits and risks.

Edit: Or did I misread this post? If so, I'm very sorry...

[-] Graphy@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah the pill is a great tool but can definitely have its side effects. I know my wife on it had a terribly low libido to the point we joked that’s how it kept you from getting pregnant

[-] presbypenguin@reddthat.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

Do you know what has all of those adverse effects in much greater frequency while also having a profound effect on your life? Pregnancy

Yes, the medical field has done a fucking terrible job of communicating the adverse effects of anything to do exclusively with AFAB bodies - look up what an IUD insertion is like without anesthesia - but again, if we compare hormonal birth control to pregnancy in terms of adverse physiological and mental effects, it's not even on the same planet.

Yeah, it might not be great for a sizable percentage of folks, and a minute percentage of folks have more immediately dangerous adverse effects that make taking hormonal birth control impossible, but in almost every case pregnancy is worse.

There's an obvious reason to get pregnant, for sure, but it comes with much, much greater risks than preventing it, especially if you don't want the intended outcome of pregnancy.

[-] architectonas@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I feel like the tumblr post is aimed primarily at hormonal birth control and the like. This is what I had in mind writing my comment at least. I am not arguing in support of not using any birth control at all. The simplest and not much less safe method are condoms. Easy to use and basically no side effects.

[-] Imacat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

There are some serious health implications too like reduced bone density, heart issues, and cancer risks. Women should have the choice to take them if they want to obviously, but there can be very real side effects.

[-] huppakee@feddit.nl 1 points 3 weeks ago

I think there is a lot you can about side-effects on anti-conception (from condoms are a hassle to pills mess with hormones), but lately young people are more in favour of 'natural sex' such as you pulling out early when the woman is ovulating which is (obviously) far less effictive. But the thing is,

one should always consider both benefits and risks.

young people aren't good at considering the the results of those results because a) their brain is still developing and b) experience comes from trying. They need to be protected against themselves, just like we do with alcohol, drugs, driving etc.

[-] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Don’t most of these issues relate to the pill specifically? The pill releases far more hormones in the body than a UDI which to my understanding is safe for most women.

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[-] Imacat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 weeks ago

There’s an open source period tracker called drip that doesn’t collect your data. Everything is kept local. My wife used it for a while and learned some things about her cycle. It was also cool being able to know almost exactly when she’d be on her period 2 months ahead of time.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

I practice natural family planning

It's called being ugly

[-] Nangijala@feddit.dk 5 points 2 weeks ago

There certainly are some side effects to taking birth control pills and depending on the person they may react differently or not react at all.

In my case I got some heart issues which made sense because it was in my family history so I just switched to the mini pill which I have taken ever since. Fucking love it. I never bleed and I don't get pms symptoms. Just get to live a normal life without all the gross stuff.

But with all that said, I too believe that the anti birth control wave online was propaganda. It just came about a little too conveniently after the US made abortion illegal. It is just a tad bit too coincidental.

I followed it a bit when it began getting traction some years ago and I felt very confused and disturbed by the narrative being passed around about birth control. It felt like fear mongering and I just felt confused by the symptoms women were reporting online. I have literally never in my life heard of any woman talk about how birth control made her depressed and I have after all been in the game for awhile and known many women who have been in it too. That was the first thing that made me lift an eyebrow.

Then I watched a video where some expert was talking about how birth control pills make women less attracted to manly men and more attracted to feminine men. I forget the name of the expert but I do remember that she was associated with conservatives and had their interests in mind. I thought it was very funny that she was essentially blaming birth control for women being attracted to unacceptable men.

And honestly, I have a question I would like to ask that expert, because when I was a teen girl, before I got on birth control, I was VERY attracted to scrawny men with long hair and eyeliner. Manly men did nothing for me.

I got on birthcontrol at 19 and wanna know what happened to my taste in men over the years? It evolved to being more focused on men with more masculine traits. Instead of scrawny I began finding men who were filled out, more attractive. I began thinking that beards were hot when I had always found them kinda gross. I thought that men who looked a bit gruff went from being gross and boring to being cute and attractive.

I'm pushing 40 now and my spouse is the exact opposite of what I was attracted to as a teen. There is nothing feminine about him.

But I think I know what that expert meant. She's blaming women choosing partners who treats them as their equals on birth control. Because here is the thing about my man: he may not look feminine nor does he particularly act feminine, but he's also not a brute who thinks he's the head of the household and I am his servant. He doesn't act like he is better than me nor does he feel entitled to me at all. He cooks and cleans. He is very good with emotional talks and being attentive and empathetic. He is very encouraging and has basically no control issues besides claiming the kitchen as his domain. That's mostly I might be one of the worst cooks in the world.

Women want men who are emotionally intelligent, who are their equals and who are good partners. They don't want a slave master. And I think that is why American conservatives are trying to blame birth control. If you can convince women that they are taking a pill that mind controls them into wanting something unnatural and wrong, then they may be more compliant than of you flat out blame them for having higher standards for their men than their mothers and grandmothers had.

There are definitely side effects to taking birth control but there are also side effects to taking pain killers.

I have no doubt the anti birth control wave is orcastrated by the very people who are trying to take away women's autonomy in the US and beyond. I see the anti abortion movement starting to take root in Europe too and I fucking hate it.

[-] GeekyOnion@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

The whole point of everything they're doing is to create an uneducated population of easily manipulated fodder. Of course people are forgetting. This effort has been running for 20-30 years (or longer) at this point, and it's working.

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yup, and it's working so well they've shifted into next gear and are stepping up the plans.

[-] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

Gotta grow new soldiers for the next war

[-] VeryVito@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I knew a woman who stopped taking birth control because of occasional headaches, and she and her husband both ended up with one that didn’t move out until 23 years later.

[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This actually happened to me. The doctor said the birth control was raising my blood pressure. I said "I don't think so" but turns out she was right. So I quit them and immediately got pregnant.

But when you say "occasional headaches"? The other thing I found out when I quit them is that they were amplifying my migraines quite a lot. Occasional headaches does not adequately describe that pain, vomiting from the pain.

(ETA - the copper IUD was also a nightmare for me, but eventually landed on the hormonal IUD and that was fantastic, those got me through to menopause - Birth Control doesn't have to be the pills, and not all of the 'hormonal' methods are the same. And an IUD will last longer than the current administration)

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It’s being pushed by the TERF/radfems on tumblr (covert alt right movement) as well. Birth control messes up your goddess energy or something.

[-] LucidLyes@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

humanity is awesome at kicking its own ass

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 3 weeks ago

When they're willing to ignore the family's wishes to pull the plug in life support of a dead woman because the corpse has a fetus growing inside of it, I don't think anyone should be finishing inside of anyone else without multiple forms of birth control.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/06/17/georgia-woman-life-support-abortion-law-baby/84240583007/

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Do not respond to any of this; just wait around for 2026 and try voting fascism out again.

Edit: the fact that liberals spew this shit so much every single day- "do nothing , wait it out, hope!"- that you didnt spot this as sarcasm says a lot about the position you're in.

[-] stinky@redlemmy.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

It's possible the election was stolen, and no amount of voter turnout could have prevented Trump from taking office.

What then? Would you still tell us to "not respond ... and try voting" ?

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[-] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Low birth rates are only problematic to carcinogenic ideologies.

[-] TheDannysaur@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm gonna get hammered here because this is Lemmy and anything even loosely associated with Natural Family Planning is going to get down voted.

There are very specific and narrow methods that work well (not perfectly, obviously). I won't quote and statistics here.

To start up top, if you want to use any method of birth control, do it. It's up to you entirely, I don't judge anyone at all.

Also, anything related to the calendar method, day counting, or any such nonsense fuckin sucks. Some like to rope that into natural family planning because they are super simple... But super simple doesn't work.

If anyone is interested in learning about one that actually has scientific backing, it would be the Billings Ovulation Method. But it's not day tracking or anything... You need to do some work. You need to learn about it, learn your own body, and be diligent. And most importantly, use alternative methods when you aren't sure.

Again, I'm willing to bring on the downvotes, but I hope people research before assuming it's all bullshit.

And just to be clear: If you want something easy, use birth control.

As an edit: I want to fully acknowledge the gap between typical use and perfect use. My wife and I are certainly in the perfect use category... Her dad is a doctor and we are well aware of all the science behind it. If you aren't going to put in the work, the method is NOT for you. At all.

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