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[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 27 points 2 days ago

Having first started working with ICE under Barack Obama collusion vote

[-] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago

Lukewarm take: Every single Palantir employee should be shot, or possibly just dropped in the ocean hundreds of miles from shore

[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

I really don't think most people appreciate just how deep and insidious the tentacles of Palantir (as the forward troops for technofascism) are.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

tOtaLiTaRiAn pOLiCe SuRvEiLLaNcE

my Chinese national friend had her phone stolen in a Tier 1 city and the police consulted the CCTV footage, called the person who took it and told them to bring it in to the police station. she got it back. what's important is the class character of the state

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago

eh, the surveillance state isn't good even if it does have proletarian class character. they'll make mistakes, or have bigots in the police, or over-react to drugs*, get hacked by foreign actors, or a thousand other ways merely having the tool around could go wrong.

*yes i understand the historical basis, no it doesn't make sense anymore.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

this feels like the "human nature" argument to me. the problems of mistakes and bad actors would seem to be good process and auditing not abandoning the technology entirely. if oversight of state power is impossible then let's just give up

[-] tocopherol@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In my view, if a person lacks a fundamental right to privacy, it will effect their behavior and increase anxiety even if no direct harm comes from it. If you are doing work, and someone is staring intensely at the work you're doing, wouldn't that make you uncomfortable? That's how I feel being tracked and monitored by the surveillance state, I feel uncomfortable and anxious, afraid to step out of line.

I agree if the state was held by the people it wouldn't generate such a feeling as much, but I don't know if the benefit from widespread surveillance justifies the risk of reactionaries or hostile governments using the panopticon for their benefit. CCTV in public areas like what allowed the person's phone to be recovered doesn't have to lead to a full surveillance state though, but it would be tough to track the suspect without other measures like device or face tracking.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago

i don't think it is at all. my argument isn't that having the power will corrupt the user, it's based on several current material imperfections.

[-] context@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

called the person who took it and told them to bring it in to the police station

how did that conversation go, i wonder. like, "we saw you took it, give it back" or "hey, we saw you {wink} found the phone, bring it over and there's no harm done" kind or thing.

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