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[-] Rooty@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

A US politician that doesn't deepthroat coporation everytime he opens his mouth? Guard him well, these types tend to end up comitting suicide via a bullet to the back of the head.

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[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This guy fucks...

The Bourgeoisie

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago

And also his wife and apparently that also became news somehow

[-] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago
[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Anything is news when the guy is a Muslim socialist. Duh

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[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 30 points 3 weeks ago

capitalism wouldn't be so bad without the corrupt bloated shitheel scumbag fucking christofascligarchs

[-] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 3 weeks ago

Capitalism grantees they rise to power.

[-] glitchdx@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

systematic removal of regulations and consequences has enabled greedy corporate dickbacks to sieze power.

systems are made of people. To make a better system, you need better people.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, and that's capitalism. The regulations are antithetical to capitalism, but they're also the only thing keeping us slightly safe from it. Yes, making capitalism less capitalist makes it a lot better. We can have a better system that's just better, with the people that exist.

[-] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago

I think a lot of people misunderstand capitalism in the same way other people misunderstand communism.

What you said is absolutely wrong, regulations are not antiethical in capitalism, they are necessary for the free market to remain free.

The system we see today is a corruption of capitalism the same way Stalinism is a corruption of Communism

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Capitalism ultimately rots into authoritarianism through wealth accumulation.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Corruption is an inherent part of capitalism

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Capitalism is the accumulation and hoarding of wealth at all costs. Exploitation and abuse are foundational concepts. There is no ethical or moral version of such a system, and so no version of it that “wouldn’t be so bad.” It is immorality and evil distilled into a code of conduct.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 7 points 3 weeks ago

Capitalism is always bad, because capitalism is where an ownership class who does no work leeches from a working class who owns nothing.

Don’t confuse free markets with capitalism, they’re different.

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[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

It's still called capitalism, but in reality it's drifted way off course. What we've got now looks more like a corporate oligarchy. The free market only applies to small players, big banks and mega-corps get bailouts, write policy through lobbyists, and face no real consequences for failure. It's capitalism in name, but the rules are rigged. Real capitalism doesn't have a reset button for the rich and a bootstraps lecture for everyone else.

[-] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

This is real capitalism. Real capitalism does not work

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[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

This is arguably one of the core components of capitalism that many capitalists choose to forget. Simping for the rich and powerful is not, itself, capitalism - capitalism is an innovation only enabled by massive government intervention in economic matters. Capitalism was not born with the first exchange of goods between people, capitalism was born with the rise of complex legal and financial instruments in European states in the 16th-17th century limiting the use of feudal and financial power.

The issue is that capitalist elites, like all prior elites, are not actually ideologues, whatever their claims. Capitalist elites are elites first, and capitalists second, if at all - the goal of elites is to preserve and enhance their own power, even at the expense of the system that enables them.

Capitalism is a touch worse at preventing elite accumulation of power than other systems (socialism), and a touch better than others (actual feudalism), but ultimately any examination which forgets that, no matter how ideologically 'pure' the analysis is, will always miss the fucking trapdoor to a more despotic and unfair system right beneath our feet.

Never trust the powerful. Any cooperation should always be conditional.

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[-] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Nah thats capitalism buddy, at its core. The point is the rigging, in order to profit as much as possible. Corporate Oligarcy is the ineveitable outcome of capitalism, because capitalism creates its own destruction after a certain point of wealth consolidation, after which point the system can no longer function as is after all the cannabalizing of its own sectors.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 8 points 3 weeks ago

In capitalism the goal is to use the money you have now to help you get more money in the future. If you can spend a few million dollars training your workforce or spend a few million buying corrupt politicians, and the latter nets you 10x the return in 1/10 the time, the system will reward those who make the immoral choice. And if you are working for a publicly traded company, your shareholders and board of directors will probably fire you for not using all technically-legal tools at your disposal.

I was recently thinking that the proponents of unregulated capitalism make it sound like natural selection for corporations. And it kind of does sound like that, until you think about it a little bit. It would be like an animal that grows more mouths as it finds more food, and if it eats even more food it can do magic shit like edit its own DNA and warp the laws of physics. Oh and of course it would be immortal, able to die from injury or starvation but never old age. (and if it did die from injury or starvation, it's probably so that its owner can sell its kidneys)

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

We now live in the age of techno feudalism. The mega corps aren’t producing and selling actual things they are just rent seeking and extracting wealth from their fiefdoms.

[-] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

No, what we have is capitalism. There has been no veering off course. You don't know what capitalism is.

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[-] victorz@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

You can practically hear the phonk.

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[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This appears to be the Mamdani interview by Erin Bernett on CNN, during which the word capitalism or capitalist was mentioned exactly zero times. EDIT: I gave up too soon, it's 8min in and I was looking at an older transcript from three days ago.

LINK HERE

Her questions were actually pretty good because they set Mamdani up to give amazing answers, ~~instead of the stupid tribalistic bullshit in your fanfiction.~~ except for that question so dumb I thought it was bullshit.

[-] joshcodes@programming.dev 25 points 3 weeks ago

That's not true, at 8 minutes he literally gets asked that exact question and responds no. Watch between 8 mins and 8:06 of the link you posted...

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[-] CorruptCheesecake@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/vik8HbWnZ68

She asked him "Do you like capitalism?" word for word.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 weeks ago

Not to mention being "Breaking News" on the ticker immediately after with his answer in the back half of the interview.

So it's also written on the screen multiple times.

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[-] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

We need a word that describes "questions that cannot be answered with a simple yes/no asked with the explicit intent to make a sound bite for stupid people." Germans do this kind of thing all the time. Some compound word like "stupid dummy-faced shitheel question." Studu-fashtion.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 11 points 3 weeks ago

It's called a loaded question, but that doesn't really have the weight of how destructive this has been to society

I'm enjoying how easy it is to use ratfuck to describe using proceduralism to try to manipulate democracy, maybe something along those lines?

[-] gabbath@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

ratfuck to describe using proceduralism to try to manipulate democracy

Haha, I never thought to define that term, it just comes to me instinctively whenever Democrats or Republicans are mentioned (particularly this second Trump administration): Democrats ratfucked their constituents in 2024, Republicans ratfucked the country in 2025.

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[-] kingofthezyx@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago

It's called a false dichotomy, actually. Basically pretending there are only two sides to an argument (capitalism good, capitalism bad) when there is more nuance. Capitalism good, but... capitalism bad, but... this isn't capitalism... etc.

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[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 weeks ago

DOWN WITH THE CAPITALIST CANCER

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

What a chad

[-] Surenho@lemmy.wtf 6 points 3 weeks ago

I keep reading one or another form of "regulated capitalism is the goal" or "in small countries work" or "the problem is people". Regulated capitalism sounds great, but it is like saying "sanitised street pond". You can try and sanitise it all you want but in the end it is by its very design gonna be an undrinkable mess.

There is no great moment of the US. Even when you had wealth, it was on the backs of the rest of america, both the country's second class citizens, and the rest of the continent. You're obsessed with empires, meddling in other countries' governments, controlling resources in other countries, glorified violence, dominance, and individualist hero idealism. Even compared to other powers like China, count how many military bases you have vs the rest of the world. You've been historically bullies, obsessed with hustle, profit over life, status and personal achievement. Every time you have an increase of wealth is at the cost of someone else. The problem is you have lived so long in this bubble of entitlement that you have no idea how it impacts everything around you. Somewhere there's a totalitarian regime where they'll murder people with guillotines, and people will rush to buy stocks in companies selling sharp blades. There is no ethic in capitalism, capitalism does not care about people.

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[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Omg, did you just darken his beard again? Somebody call Fox with this breaking story.

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