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[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Sorry Bernie, I think we need to start considering some other boxes now. Not just the ballot variety.

[-] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

Will ones made of steel suffice?

[-] mercano@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, problem is it’s still 16 months until Election Day, and 18 until the next Congress is seated. That’s a lot of time for this current government to continue to do harm. I really wish we had recall elections at the national level.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

And that's the problem. Americans have the memory of squirrels

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

That's where the resistance has to last 16 to 40 months, slowing down and making people aware enough of these things:

  • how unserious about budgets Republicans are
  • how much they are trying to punish regular people (poor middle and moderately wealthy class),
  • while also looking to use the they are spending to subsidize companies, multi-millionaires and billionaires.
[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

No words spent around reforming the democrats and getting them back on track, I see.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That conversation has to happen now as well. But the points I raised are related to despair of the Reconciliation bill passing and those climate setbacks.

Democrats' window of opportunity to change ahead of midterms is NOW until the primaries. (I've said my spiel about it before in this thread)

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

ok that works.

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io -1 points 3 weeks ago

The Democrats needed to all vote against this bill. And I don't just mean in the Senate. The House too.

[-] kurwa@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Did any Democrats vote for the bill?

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 2 points 3 weeks ago

No. But apparently we should be talking about reforming the Democrats when discussing this bill passed by almost every Republican.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

Because the last 2 dem presidencies choosing not to improve their constituants material conditions and instead send cops to kick the shit out of their most activated supporters while begging them for money and slaughtering brown people in the middle east is why 2 generations dont see the dem party as a means to enacting positive social change.

[-] xyzzy@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago
[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

How can we be sure that the winner actually won? I don’t trust us elections anymore.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

Second half of that sentence was a letdown

[-] hexonxonx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

I find it astounding that Americans STILL think there's democracy in America.

It's gone and it's not coming back for a long, long time.

[-] KingOfSleep@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

And that's why many people won't vote. Defeatism is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Defeatism was beaten into us by defeat after defeat after blatantly undemocratic defeat.

And it's just electoral defeatism. You can't beat the master at his own game because he's the one that makes the rules.

Try a little revolutionary optimism instead.

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Ding ding ding.

These were the same exact people that helped Trump win.

Democracy is still here, we just have to actually fucking participate in it.

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

We need to stop being afraid of primarying shitty candidates.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

We the people aren’t afraid of this, but if the establishment dems catch wind of a primary challenger who’s left of center, they will come down so hard on them with millions in DNC attic ads and literally try to cancel the primary if they have to to keep them out.

[-] immutable@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

It’s why Mamdani’s win was such a big deal. The establishment was all about Cuomo and they still aren’t lining up behind the voters pick.

The thing is it looks like the party will be happy to let their bigger names just refuse to endorse him. Media will spend the next few months attacking him for being a scary socialist. And the dnc will suddenly lose track of their “vote blue no matter who” bumper stickers and be happy to fundraise for cuomo as an independent.

I’m sure though they will send Mamdani and old button making machine or something so they can claim that “this is why we don’t run far left candidates, maybe next cycle we could run Liz Cheney instead!”

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 0 points 3 weeks ago

Then why have Congress vote at all? Why didn't Trump just use an EO to put all the provisions he favored in place?

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

It’s much easier to stifle open revolt with sham elections. Putin has been doing this for decades now in Russia.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Nothing to pay if there is no ballot box in the future.

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

can we go to the 4th box?

you know the other 3 seems to be broken...

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Bernie: vote them out!

Lefties: lol, no.

[-] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

MUST PAY A PRICE!! (at the ballot box)

Love you, Bernie, and thanks for being a decent guy, but that’s some GWB-era thinking that’s going to end with your base in camps.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Poll tax? Republicans love that idea!!!

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

You must be this rich to vote:

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[-] meyotch@slrpnk.net 0 points 3 weeks ago

As should every Democrat.

Give us proper open and honest primaries, bitches. This strong Dem isn’t falling for it any more. Represent the People, not your donors, or lose your jobs. It’s quite simple.

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago

Right. Let's vote out every Dem who voted for the bill.

What's that you say?

[-] jackeroni@lemmy.ml -1 points 3 weeks ago

They won't because its a damn uniparty

[-] notsure@fedia.io -4 points 3 weeks ago

...sweet summer child...

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