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Get ready to lose again, assholes. (slrpnk.net)
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[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago

Well just like with War on Drugs is not about winning. It's about making as much money off of it as you can. Note they didn't try to address the problems with immigration. They didn't change the Green Card system. They didn't expand the number of immigration judges. They didn't do anything except fund ice and fund more detention centers which are privately run at extremely huge markups.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

And prison slavery is legal. Guess who will be working the farms

Edit: it's legal.

[-] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 5 points 3 weeks ago

Prison slavery is technically illegal, but they are paid incredibly meager wages to where it's essentially legal slavery.

[-] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The bloated ICE budget isn't just to wage war against immigrants, it's also because they realized the military wouldn't side with them if they tried to seize/retain power. Now they have a massive, well-funded army of racist thugs that answers only to them, sidestepping the Constitution and chain-of-command entirely.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 6 points 4 weeks ago

This is like the SS in 1920s germany, right?

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 weeks ago

It was the SA back then, the brownshirts. But I think the inspiration is more the Rosgvardiya in Russia

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 4 weeks ago

The military are actually trained though. There's no point trying to train these guys they are military rejects.

The US military versus these guys would be more farcical than anything else.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 weeks ago

The point is that the military will sit it out since they can't be deployed domestically

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 4 weeks ago

If the US gets to that point I don't think those rules will apply anymore.

[-] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

not if the protesters are declared foreign agents/a civil war is declared.

look at the Syrian, Sudanese and Egyptian revolutions

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago

The "war on drugs" was never about winning. It was about funneling public money into private pockets and about scaring the populace into compliance. Same with the immigration bullshit.

[-] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

Let me introduce you to the racist motive

The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and Black people. You understand what I’m saying? We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or Black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and Blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.

  • John Ehrlichman, President Nixon's Domestic Policy Cheif. (Harper's Magazine)
[-] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 weeks ago

"The US will always do the right thing... after having exhausted all other possibilities."

[-] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

winning the war isnt the goal

[-] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

Don't forget Afghanistan.

[-] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The war was not lost there, it was pretty quickly won. The reconstruction was lost.

[-] AllToRuleThemOne@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I‘d say it was a very long fought war against the Taliban, who managed to survive and eventually won since they are in charge now.

[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

an important caveat about what happened with Russia, an enormous amount of their military was only on paper, because it had either been lied about, or stuff was stolen, from various positions on the pecking order.

It should also be noted that after a shitshow of year 1 and being unable to fight a combined arms mechanized war, they switched back to the brute force and massive casualty strategy, and for all intents and purposes, It worked, all Ukraine can do is try to hold territory and kill soldiers, but realistically due to Western cowardice and ratfuckery, the door closed a long time ago on Ukraine being able to dislodge Russia from its stolen territory.

[-] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

Vietnam was not lost, it was abandoned.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 2 points 4 weeks ago

It was absolutely lost.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 4 weeks ago

We retreated after taking massive losses and accomplishing none of our strategic objectives, unless you consider sending a generation of youth, poisoning the land for generations, and committing countless atrocities to be the real objectives, rather than the stated goal of preventing Vietnam, a country that is still communist to this day, from becoming communist?

[-] reddit_castaway@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

Lol, lmao even

[-] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The poster forgot about Afghanistan, it should be on that list too

[-] Pendorilan@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

"Terror". The US loves waging unwinnable wars against inanimate objects (drugs) and feelings (terror) lol totally irrational.

[-] DrFistington@lemmy.world -1 points 4 weeks ago

At this point, after seeing that new budget, I'm just trying to think of ways to defraud the shit out of ICE. They're going to be writing checks without even glancing at the PO unless it's over 10 million

[-] bizzle@lemmy.world -1 points 4 weeks ago

Send their office an invoice for whatever, they'll probably just pay it.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 0 points 4 weeks ago

Make sure to also provide the service. Otherwise you could get in trouble for fraud.

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