If somebody doesn't want kids, they should never let anyone talk them into it.

I don't want kids and I always get weird looks from family and friends but I don't care.

Situation in the world is terrible and on top of that I know that I wouldn't be a good parent.

I didn't want kids. Shit happened. It took about 18 months for me to feel anything for my kid. Those 18 months were a war against sleep deprivation and time deprivation. The wife left a year or two later. Left my kid with me. Single dad shit for the next, well, going on 25 years now. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. I'm still sick with guilt bringing a kid into this fucked up world, but I love my kid.

This doesn't help you, but I also got a vasectomy about 6 months after he was born. I should have done it earlier. My advice to anyone is, don't have fucking kids. Get a vasectomy ASAP and live your life. Unless you come from big time old money, or get incredibly lucky, kids just add incredible stress and money drain for a minimum of a couple of decades.

Like everyone else has already said, perfectly normal for a Dad this early in the game and sadly for a Mum too. You will likely only see them as a crying poop machine at this age, sapping your life force away.

I guarantee that will change. How strongly and what to, I can't say but it will. Took me just over a year. Once they started walking, smiling, saying my name and then I really got into when I started taking days off to take them into town or to a park. Just seeing the smile and excitement on their face and hearing them saying thank you, the hardship was worth it!

Some advice though - I would be open with your wife. It's easy to try and suck it up and do everything to support her because she has had a baby and is struggling to, right? Sure, but it is a team effort. Have a chat about whether there is a happier medium that makes dealing with the hardships more equal. For example, we took it in 3 hour shifts at night to see to the babybfor a long time so the other could get some interrupted sleep.

Parenthood, especially early on, is a trial! It will be that way until they become and adult and move out. The trial changes everyday. If it isn't poop, it's mood swings as they get older or tantrums.

All I can say is, as they get older, go out of your way to make time for you and them to bond and just maybe it all feels worth it. It has for me, wouldn't have it any other way.

Not necessarily at 3 weeks, it is so intensely stressful at the start. Crying is designed to make you feel upset, that is what it evolved for, so that you would check on the baby.

I did feel love for the newborns, but they aren't fun or anything, they are just babies. You were the same at the start of your life.

Can your wife visit a lactation consultant? I remember my kids falling asleep nursing, is that not normal? They nurse, fall asleep, wake up and are happy for awhile, then cry, nurse, and fall asleep, that's the whole newborn cycle. I don't think that means they aren't getting enough, of the baby was that hungry he'd stay awake long enough to eat enough and remember, the milk in the first few moments has the most fat & calories.

Basically - I would not trust your feelings right now, while sleep deprived and stressed. You may enjoy the baby when it is more enjoyable. Like 2-3 years old is blistering cute, and then they are learning so much you can see it happening, and teenagers are fun and keep you aware of pop culture.

I don't remember my mom being, well, mom-ish, not very nice when we were little, we weren't neglected at all she was just never close with us. I asked her about it when I was grown and she said "I don't like kids." And I was like "WTF, you had so many kids!" And she said "Well, I like you all now, I knew you'd grow up, you don't have kids to have kids but to raise people.". And I guess she has a point. It's nicer to enjoy the ride, I did, but she didn't and we were ok.

From what I read your wife suffers from depression, correct? From what I read between the lines, she already did before she got pregnant, correct?

And considering how experienced you seem with taking over and keeping everything together, that's probably what you have been doing for years already?

That's quite a common pattern, and it's one that can only remain stable for a certain amount of time. She's depending a lot on you, you pick up the slack and carry her burden. That works well without kids when the only responsibilities are to spend enough time at work, but it becomes very troublesome with a small kid, where the workload is too much even for two fully-functioning adults.

This can drive you in a kind of caregiver burnout. You go beyond your limits for too long, and after some time you just don't have the power to continue that way and smile through it. Depression spreads and good things diminish. That's at least what I read between your lines.

This is the point where you need to get help. Find a better distribution of work with your wife. Rope in relatives (your mom seems to be invested) and get them to help you out, especially in these crucial first few months.

Pumping milk means that the baby isn't necessarily tethered to your wife, so you can also get your mom to watch the kid for an evening or so, so that you two can get some rest.

Considering getting therapy yourself.

Try to recover before you burn out completely.

As for the feelings towards your child, don't force it, give it time.

I feel bad about saying this, and this is more for other people, but don't let other people's expectations push you into having kids. If your partner wanted five kids and you didn't even know if you wanted one, you were incompatible and you should have ended things once you discussed this like responsible adults. Instead you brought someone else into the world who may suffer just so you could try it out.

I'm not saying this to say you're a bad person. Honestly, this wouldn't happen to a bad person probably. You're a good person who let expectations push you into a position you didn't belong.

As others say, you may end up bonding with them later, and that will be great. They won't be a baby forever, and also you're really tired and probably grumpy right now. That's all fair. I hope for your kid that things work out, but for anyone else reading this, if you don't agree on children with your partner, it's time to find someone else. That's a fundamental thing that needs to be the same. It's like if you want to be monogamous but your partner doesn't. That's just not going to work. There are some things that you just need to share or break up. It doesn't make you bad for doing so. Also, yes, it'll hurt and suck, but it's the responsible thing to do.

I didn't feel that bad, but certainly when my kid could talk and understand things got a lot nicer. You could understand specifically what the kid wants and the kid can learn some patience and half more fun in a way that's vaguely fun for the parents too.

You might want to talk to a mental health professional as well, but I'd not be too worried about not enjoying being around a 3 week old.

Oh also, at least for me, from about 2 years old all the effort was well worth it. Happiest times of my life. Cherish the time before they start asserting independence as a teenager. Still good times for me, but certainly different ..

I think everyone has their own age group that they bond with the most. For me, I LOVE little puddle babies, so I had kind of an easy go of it. Changing the diaper and bottle feeding? Sick. Naps and tummy time? Fuckin sold. C'mere, kid, we're going to chill and play vidya. I think the best advice I can offer is that you'll generally find more of what you seek-- go fishing with magnets, don't be surprised to get metal instead of fish, etc. Try to make the best of it whenever you can, try to find the joy in it wherever possible, and try to play. Kids, even babies, will surprise you with the ways they can find to play, if you give them the chance.

As for the state of the world, my kids have motivated me to get into local politics to try and leave them a better world than what I inherited. And if all else fails, well, one can always re-evaluate their political strategy once their dependents are less dependent.

New father here as well. Let me start by saying, please ignore any negative comments, they are shitty or non-parents. I see some terrible responses here.

Here's what I see: a responsible kickass father is owning up to this huge lifestyle change, giving 110% to his wife and son, doing a perfect job emotionally and physically - service with everything but the smile. A mom going through post-partum depression, which is not only normal, it's actually abnormal not to. You're also going through something like "post-partum depression", which is also not your fault at all and totally normal. Seek help for yourself too, and remember this will all pass. You need support from your wife as well - and sometimes giving support is the greatest way to feel acknowledged, you may be doing her a favor to dump on her (and yes, I know your time to converse is like minutes per day). You're in the hardest phase and we all feel exactly the same way. It gets so much easier so quickly.

As for the sounds, I'm very, very sensitive to crying so I suggest ear protection like over-ear headset + earplugs or ear pods with white noise playing. Trust me, you don't need to hear the crying to be a responsive parent. I use physical cues like vibration, facial expressions, physical movement, etc like a deaf parent, and I use and audio monitor too to physically see the sounds. This makes me 1000x more functional and responsive.

As for not feeling the "connection" (yet!), that is textbook post-partum and again, super normal. Your guilt/anger/depression at lacking that connection, feeling lonely and unsupported - these are textbook normal things. Newborn parenting is fucking hard. In pre-history infant mortality was crazy and there was 10 adults per newborn, we're not meant to do any of this. If you exit this with 30 fingers and toes you're smashing it. I think in time you'll be able to enjoy it once you are sleeping, eating, and not completely overwhelmed. It could be years, but you know that. In the mean time, wish you (and I) luck to surviving...

I guess the best thing to do would be to publish your experiences to other people. You're in this now, but you can prevent others from making the same choices if you inform them about what it entails. That will make you feel better because you're contributing sth to the world. :)

I feel like things get much better once your kid is potty trained. At that point you no longer have to deal with poop and your kid is old enough to be more fun/human.

It gets better, I really didn't connect with my oldest until he was almost 9 months. It's tough now with the lack of sleep and all the other stuff that comes with a newborn.

The number one piece of advice a number of dads have given me is: if you don't want kids, don't have kids. I would add to this: if you don't feel ready for kids, don't have kids. And your situation is exactly why this advice applies.

I recommend leaning on your social networks for help with childcare. Your mom likes the baby? Great! She can take care of them 2 nights per week while you catch up on everything and find some sanity.

Your wife forced you to have a baby. Force her to seek more help. Recruit her friends and family if you need to. She wanted this, but you are doing all the work. She needs to get her shit together so she can help out.

Sorry dude, but you've basically blown up your life for the next decade. If you don't really like the kid by then, probably the best case is to get a divorce and bounce. Pay child support. Take the kid in a cool trip once per year. Then you can live the life you want, and the kid won't go through puberty with a dad who resents them around all the time.

You will bond with the kid later, not now. I think its pretty common for dads to connect much later. You didnt carry the kid so you have no connection yet.

Give it time but also stop doing all unnecessary work. You cant emotionally connect if you are always tired and you associate the kid only with screaming in the background.

I'll tell you the part you don't want to hear: You compromised with your wife. Compromises suck. But they are better than no compromises. Having a child is the ultimate commitment.

Here's the good news: the hardest part is behind you. Tough it out for a bit more. Everyday will get just a bit easier. New borns are not very interactive, so it's kinda normal to not enjoy this part. Maybe you'll get more out of it when the child starts smiling at you, or talking to you, or taking an interest in your hobby. Maybe not.

Also, you could be suffering from baby blues. It's common, even at three weeks. Consider some support for yourself, not just your wife.

I really want to love this kid and being a dad but at this point it's a job and I hate my job even though I'm killing it in the effort game.

You will love your kid, don't worry about that. Maybe you already do. There is no ah-ha moment, so it's hard to tell. It's not the same feeling as loving a significant other or a parent. It's something else entirely and you've never experienced it before, you probably don't realize you have it. My wife was the same way, took her a bit, but she loves it now.

You are killing it in the effort game. You've done an amazing job so far. Frankly, if what you say is true, you're making most of us look pretty bad, myself included. Be proud. Also get your mom to help. From an evolutionary perspective, that's what grandmas are for, so don't feel bad asking for help.

I never truly wanted to have a kid for a whole list of reasons including climate change, growing instability, feeling like I already don't have time to do the things I want to do, not feeling like I have my shit together (on paper I do, but I don't feel like that), not understanding what it means to be "happy"...stuff like that.

First, you're exactly the type of person who should be having a kid. So many intelligent, good, empathetic, introspective people choose not to have kids because of the reasons you listed, but let's be honest, they're scared little bitches. You're not one of them anymore. You have a living, breathing stake in the future and you have your shit together because you had a kid on purpose. Could your shit be more together? Perhaps. Does it need to be? No. Your shit is good enough. People in worse situations have kids and it works out.

If you and people like you didn't have kids, then the only people having kids would be... bad. It would be bad and we can't have that. So thank you, there will now likely be another good, intelligent, empathetic, and introspective person to take your place someday.

Second, I don't know what it means to be happy either but I don't care. I think that makes me happy in some way. But who knows, all I know is I'm not sad, and that's good enough for me.

Third, you'll be able to do the things you want to do. Things are a bit busy at the moment but as others have said it'll get easier. Your wife will continue to recover (but beware post partium depression) and your kid will get more and more capable. It happens fast.

Lastly, ask yourself why the crying bothers you so much? If it's just the volume, then wear ear protection. That helped me. If it's not the volume, then what is it?

Y’all both got a lot going on, and yes, should have worked on it before kids, but here y’all are.

1. When we had our first kid (12 now), I really struggled with the emotional connection piece for weeks. It’s common. I don’t think I had a strong emotional connection until she was like 2 or something. I had bad anger issues, dealing with my own depression & BS. But, she’s 12 now.
2. With our second, the emotions for her came faster. I was in less stress, more established career wise, but my wife struggled more with postpartum. She never struggled with depression and finally found herself going through feelings of inadequacy & feeling like a failure. She got on meds, made a big difference, and it eventually worked out with her getting off of them.
3. Our third kid was significantly easier for both of us. We had different struggles, but it wasn’t kid related.

I know where you are mentally. You need to find a healthy outlet for the resentment and then come back to what you have now, someone dependent on you.

You can/could be a deadbeat or absent, but you may be a better parent for a different age. My wife was great with little ones (0-2). I did much better with toddlers and young kids (3-8). We’re both getting used to tweens.

I know it might be a financial strain, but you should both seek therapy. This isn’t a pejorative (as is “You’re so messed up!”), but therapy can help significantly, especially your partner. She may want to consider a psych.

Good luck. For me, the first few weeks were the worst. No sleep, just doing shit on auto-pilot like “why the f*ck did we do this…?” But my kids have brought incredible joy in my life. I wouldn’t want them to disappear now, no matter how much work it is some days.

No, men don't even like their babies for the first three months. Mothers have already had 9 months to bond with the baby.

man, i hope things turn around for you. only advice i can think of is tough it out, and do your best to not take it out on the kid like so many fathers do

You should not have had the kid, because you weren't 100% invested in it

But, it's too late now

You put your big-boy pants on, and you work. You don't ever let the kid know that you fucked-up

This is your burden to bear. Be a man and get on with it, and give that kid the best life you can

And for fuck's sake, have a vasectomy right now so that you don't have a bandaid to try to unfuck this situation and make it worse

There are too many things wrong in this entire situation.

If you did not want children, you should not had let your partner pressure you into it. And that 5 figure she wanted tells me she was indoctrinated to be a brood mare, not an independent woman.

Have you tried your best? Are you still trying? Yes. But I risk things will only get worst in the future between you and your partner. Respect was broken; that is the worst that can happen in a relationship.

Regarding the child - and I am going to be cold and cruel here: man up.

That child did not ask to be conceived and born. Their entire world is you - again, because regardless your state of mind, you seem a lot more involved than the mother - and even though the connection isn't there, consider it a duty towards a completely defenceless human being. I'm not telling you to love them but to protect and care for them as if you were in their situation: show kindness and respect.

Which you seem to be showing and makes you a bigger human being.

There is no magic solution for this situation. Sincerely speaking, it wasn't the right time for that child to be born, if ever, but they're here now. Find a solution as adults.

I wish I could spare some face to face time to hear you out and give some real support but I fear we live in too far away parts of the world for that to happen.

Be brave and be honest, just like you've been doing and done here.

Others have said what I would have said better so I won't say much, but I didn't think upvotes were enough so I will say that there's nothing wrong with you for feeling the way you do. You're not alone and things do get better, even if better ends up meaning something different than you were expecting.