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submitted 4 days ago by bunitor@lemmy.eco.br to c/linux@lemmy.ml

trixie (aka debian 13) is about to get released with plasma 6.3. it seems that finally x11 is being left behind, which is good, but it worried me a little bit because

  1. my nvidia graphics card is old: the 470 driver is the latest version that supports it (so no wayland support from nvidia proprietary drivers ever)

  2. on bookworm (debian 12, the current stable version), nouveau works pretty well, but it crashed more or less daily when i tried to daily drive it at work

x11 is still very well supported by plasma 6, but the near future has no place to it and i worry i would eventually get stuck without updates to my system as the newer versions lose x11 support. i decided to try wayland+nouveau again on trixie to see if i had better luck this time

it all worked way better than i expected. performance is seemingly on par with the proprietary driver, i've had no crashes so far and i've been using it for a week and even screensharing, one of the most problematic aspects of the experience last time i tried, worked well. the one problem i had was with the slack flatpak, which didn't support wayland for some reason, so it had to run on xwayland. screen sharing wayland applications from x11 apps is possible through the xwaylandvideobridge, which kinda works, but it crashed xwayland entirely at one point, killing both x11 applications i had running. i won't blame that on the system itself and installing the slack deb package fixed the problem anyway

all in all, it seems like i can safely switch to plasma 6+wayland+nouveau at work

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[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

A huge problem with Debian Trixie is that it is shipping with NVIDIA drivers from before explicit sync was added (over a year ago). This is crazy to me.

But if you want to stay on X11, Debian Stable will support it for quite a few years yet even after KDE drops support.

If you are going to use Wayland (I do), it is worth using back ports to get newer NVIDIA drivers.

Debian Stable should really be called Debian Static (unchanging). Because they can ship unstable (crashy) software for years after other distros have moved on.

[-] bunitor@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 2 days ago

my card is not supported by anything newer than 470, so your comment doesn't apply to my case

[-] treeofnik@discuss.online 4 points 3 days ago

I’ve been daily driving Debian testing + Wayland for a year or so though I have AMD. Pretty solid, gaming has worked wonderfully and generally do a bit of development and docker stuff too.

[-] bunitor@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 3 days ago

if i had an amd video card i would have moved to wayland ages ago. things on wayland are so much more polished than on x11

why does nvidia have to suck so much? i'm still salty about the eglstreams bullshit

this post was submitted on 18 Jul 2025
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