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Davel, .ml admin: "A credible article that brings up the totally-not-happening Uyghur genocide? On .ml‽ That's a CENSORING!" (lemmy.world)

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[-] Pratai@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Ahh yes, the cowardly .ml “Rule 1”. Just vague enough to not have to bother explaining themselves to anyone…

It’s no surprise that the clowns that run that shitshow seem to run it as if it were the Kremlin.

[-] lemjukes@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

First thing I did after opening the new account after the lemm.ee shutdown was block .ml instances. Significant reduction in exposure to stupid ass takes.

[+] Subdivide6857@midwest.social -86 points 5 days ago

This is largely US propaganda. Buying into the China bad bullshit is US government funded propaganda. I believe it was just last year congress set aside around $1.5 billion for anti-China campaigns. The US government has never been the good guy, and it’s a little wild to me when liberals buy into the trash. It probably shouldn’t. US liberals are generally capitalism loving right wingers.

[-] remotelove@lemmy.ca 53 points 5 days ago

"Social credit", the bullshit about Taiwan being "native territory", trying to bully their way into territory expansion and their support of Russia kinda sets a specific tone, doesn't it?

Fuck that Chinese dictatorship and all the fucking Internet shills that can't help but suck CCP dick.

It's super easy to get to the bottom of propaganda articles without knobbers like you starting shit wherever they can.

This ain't about "US good" or "China bad". I am just calling out that dumbfucks like you are 90% of the problem with how people from different countries perceive each other. Did you really aim to convince anyone of your beliefs? I don't think so.

Go back to .ml where you belong.

[+] Subdivide6857@midwest.social -31 points 5 days ago

China has a democratically elected government. Your liberal talking points make you sound like a sheep.

[-] napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago

China has a democratically elected government.

Yes, North Korea as well. God, these liberals are so stupid.

[-] remotelove@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Welp, since we have gone down that path, I think this liberal talking point is hysterical: https://youtu.be/K9AF6OtHtYs

(The above even includes a hair of excessive drama that is even a bit much for me.)

I await your wall of URLs of counter points, hopefully mixed with some deflection and tie-ins to political affiliation. According to your brethren on ml, the issues with these cities were resolved two years ago...

Also, did you notice which community you are in?

[-] Goodeye8@piefed.social 30 points 5 days ago

Bad Empanada has an hour long video going over this topic. There's definitely some western propaganda in circulation but there's even more Chinese propaganda trying to hide the truth.

[-] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I was literally about to link that and I saw you already did

[-] ValarieLenin@midwest.social 5 points 4 days ago

Didn't expect to see him get upvoted as a source here.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

why ya linking bad empanada? He's fuckin crazy

[-] Goodeye8@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago

Because despite who he is as a person his video essays are quality content.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

He's called for innocent people to be killed

[-] Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 points 22 hours ago

So nuance just goes right over your head? Fair enough.

[-] Pratai@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

I too love satire. But I think you might be leaning a bit too far into it. It’s hard to tell you’re joking.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago

What's your opinion on why Russia invaded Ukraine?

[-] Subdivide6857@midwest.social 7 points 5 days ago

Russia is a fascist state. Since the USSR fell it’s been run by the rich, just like the US.

[-] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

And what's your opinion on the USSR?

[-] Subdivide6857@midwest.social -2 points 3 days ago

An incredible success. If the capitalists see you as a threat, you’re doing something right.

[-] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

Really? I wouldn't call it a success, seeing how it collapsed. Also it was horribly authoritarian. I don't think you and I are ever going to get along.

[-] Subdivide6857@midwest.social -1 points 3 days ago

From illiterate to space bound in 50 years. It was absolutely a success. I’m guessing you don’t really know much about the USSR. You were force fed the idea that socialism is bad in school and it stuck, like most poorly educated Americans. The truth is socialism produces results very quickly. The people working for the people, rather than some shitty corporation. The USSR went from around 10% of the population being literate to 80% within 10 years. It was an incredible success. There’s plenty of information out there regarding the CIA basically just making shit up. The usual US propaganda that we now see with any country that shows socialist values today, such as China. We wouldn’t want the working class rising up.

[-] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think socialism is good actually. If you think that's what the USSR was doing you drank the Kool aid.

Edit: also: I'm not an American, good job making assumptions about me.

[-] Subdivide6857@midwest.social 0 points 2 days ago

There were significant changes throughout, but from what I’ve read, the early years were pretty magical. From illiteracy to space bound in 50 years is nothing to scoff at. Stalinism is very controversial, indeed.

[-] Rampsquatch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Stalin was evil.

[-] ExFed@programming.dev 21 points 5 days ago

Do you value diversity, equity, and inclusion? Do you like having the ability to freely talk about ideas which might challenge The Party? Do you enjoy free and fair elections?

If your answer to those questions is "no" then your value system is quite at odds with the average Western Liberal. Liberals love liberalism. China doesn't like liberalism. It's pretty obvious why there's friction between them, no propaganda required.

[-] Harvey656@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Hot take, China fucking sucks too pal. Probably even worse, gotta paint that ground green. (If you know, you know.)

[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yikes

Got any actual proof? Or are you just repeating CCP propaganda?

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Hot take: They, and a few more are all massively bad at their political core. They all have good, suppressed citizens at the bottom.

All the global superpowers commit warcrimes against humanity. It does not matter who is the comparative worst.

Smaller billionaires don’t become ethical in the shadow of bigger billionaires

Every single global crime against life should be known and talked about.

[-] doublebatterypack@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago

lol

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