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A Staten Island woman buying pot from a local deli got into a misunderstanding with the cashier — who ended up macing her, dragging​ her outside by her hair, kicking her in the head and mistakenly calling her trans.

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[-] darq@kbin.social 352 points 1 year ago

This is the consequence of the hatred that transphobes, garden variety conservatives and TERFs alike, have stoked. And the narrative that the media has gleefully ran with.

Being visibly trans or gender-non-conforming nowadays is genuinely scary in a way I think a lot of people don't fully understand. And of course when femininity is being policed, women of colour tend to suffer too, even if they are cisgender.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 165 points 1 year ago

When you're so anti-trans you loop around and become anti-cis.

I think these people might just be anti-women.

DING DING DING. They can "get away with" hating trans women more easily, but it's just a stepping stone on the way to Gilead for them.

[-] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Racism, Misogyny and transphobia have always come from a similar place and build off of each other. They share the same narratives and the same desire for ostracization and oppression. Bigots will always ally with other bigots, as this hatred is not rational and only someone with similarly irrational hate could support you. Dig enough in bigoted communities and you are certain to find all different kinds of hatred.

That's why TERF communities are infested with homophobia, misogyny, racism, antisemitism and Islamophobia. Over time the concentration of white supremacy and nazism has grown exponentially in terf communities. Nazis share many of the same goals and many of the same conspiracies that terfs do. And prominent terfs like Kelly Jay Keen openly ally with Christian white nationalists around the world.

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[-] maxenmajs@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago

The instigators responsible will keep getting away with it. They're very careful to use the right dog whistles and key words to avoid getting deplatformed and they still cause their followers to act like this.

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 48 points 1 year ago

Being visibly trans or gender-non-conforming nowadays

And she's neither of those things anyhow. She will find out the guy's name & address in Discovery & he will go to prison for hate crime + assault.

[-] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 year ago

I feel we need to change that little children's rhyme to be a bit more accurate

"Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can lead to pogroms" or something like that

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[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 211 points 1 year ago

When she called 911 after getting home, cops showed up but she was told she needed to go back to the scene, which is in a different precinct from her home, and call 911 from there.

Cops will move heaven and earth to not prosecute the criminals they like. Especially corrupt racist-ass NYPD.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago

"Brown, a former NYPD captain, noted police are obligated to take a report no matter where the crime occurred and that forcing crime victims to return to where they were attacked is traumatizing. The NYPD said Adams told the 911 dispatcher she would go to the scene, suggesting she voluntarily offered to do so."

"Regardless, when Adams went back to the grocery and called for police from there, it took officers four hours to show up, she said. The officers, she said, appeared to know the attacker, referring to him as “Mr. Fourth of July.”'

JFC

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[-] sirico@feddit.uk 187 points 1 year ago

Almost like pointless hate makes the world a bit shitter.

[-] Amilo159@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago

Disagree. Not a bit, a whole lot more shittier.

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[-] febra@lemmy.world 175 points 1 year ago

This is what transphobia has to offer. Transphobia and TERFS are inherently misogynistic because they start to attack every single woman that doesn't fit into the worldview of a few people.

[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Yeah, transohibia, anti gay, racism, anti immigrant, anti religion - intolerance is ugly, evil and the worst of humanity

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[-] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 153 points 1 year ago

Is it still a hate crime if they were wrong about the person's identity? Imo it should be.

[-] gavran@lemmy.world 133 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you committed a crime because of the perception of an individual falling under a protected class, it should qualify as a hate crime. I believe this is considered a bias incident and it is treated as a hate crime in NYC.

[-] quindraco@lemm.ee 37 points 1 year ago

Of course it qualifies as a hate crime. Hate crime legislation is entirely about what you think inside your head as you commit some other crime - hence the word "hate".

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[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 61 points 1 year ago

IIRC NY is a transfer of intent state, that is to say if you intended to kill X person but fucked up and killed Y person instead, you're still guilty of 1st degree murder, because you still intended to do a murder

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[-] qooqie@lemmy.world 137 points 1 year ago

Oh that sounds like a perfectly normal reaction to someone different from you

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 112 points 1 year ago

Wait, this is being called a misunderstanding? I don't think whoever wrote that actually understands that word...

[-] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The misunderstanding was what started the fight (he thought she was haggling for prices, not that she was trying to verify the price of things to make sure she bought the right weed for her friend), not the transphobic attack.

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 year ago

We're getting physical with people for haggling prices now? Canal street about to get wild.

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[-] RobertOwnageJunior@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

As in: 'Miss, understand, I don't give a fuck about your rights.'

[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 97 points 1 year ago

A sad reminder that transphobia and other forms of hate affect us all, not just the ones who are primarily targeted.

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 68 points 1 year ago

Haggling isn't illegal. She needs to sue the deli owner as well for hiring & protecting that shithead. I hope she takes everything they have.

[-] Parabola@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

What does the pot have to do with someone being a hateful idiot? I’m not sure what the headline is trying to tell me

[-] BROMETHIUS@startrek.website 55 points 1 year ago

She looks like a trans and she smokes the pot! She deserved it!

/s if not obvious enough

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Victim blaming. "She's a filthy bisexual pot buyer!" It wasn't even for her.

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[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 59 points 1 year ago

The cops knew the attacker and subsequently avoided any real investigation. Classic bastard behavior.

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[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

The headline just kept getting worse huh?

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[-] S_204@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Key takeaway.... they sell weed at deli's in NYC?

That's interesting. Around here it's all thru a licensed shop.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 year ago

Geez this is where we're at. Fueled by Fox and the right wing needing a bogeyman at all times.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wow, that was a pretty insane sentence...

[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago
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