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I told it to power off. It rebooted to do updates. Once these updates were done, it powered off. Kinda like Windows. 😂
what desktop is that? fedora kde has separate options for shutdown and shutdown-and-update, same for reboot. I think it's a native plasma 6 feature, integrates with packagekit and systemd's special boot mode.
untattended updates are good. except of course if you want to gatekeep hard, but let's pretend you do not. if the pros can easily turn it off there's absolutely no problems with it. and we can. but for real desktop systems, it needs to be on by default.
I use debian 12, like OP.
It has those separate options too.
how's the framework?
Not OP, but I bought one at the beginning of the year (with the same bezel color as OP, in fact) and I love it. I was originally worried that the keyboard felt cheap, but once the keys wore slightly (took about a week) it felt beautiful. Being able to move the I/O around has been amazing. I do somewhat wish I'd gotten the 16 with a GPU instead of the 13, but if I'm honest with myself, I didn't really need it (and still don't). Six months in, it seems like it's holding up very well.
I think that's because of systemd.
Is that what we're going to do today, Kitty? We're going to fight?
Not here to fight (though this feels like a quote from somewhere). It's just how systemd handles things. Probably it's not the only reason for this, but I haven't seen this behaviour on systems with OpenRC.
Looks like a sitcom. Could you find a non age-restricted version perhaps? I cannot view this on Youtube or on Freetube. yt-dlp cannot download it either.
Update yt-dlp maybe? Yt works just fine. Haven't tried freetube. It's just a bit from "That 70s Show"
It's the latest version. The video is age-restricted for me and I don't have an account.
That's weird, I don't run into any age restrictions
Then it's most likely one of Google's shenanigans. I heard random restrictions were going on on Youtube but first time seeing it myself.
Yeah, I wouldn't doubt that at all. Google is turning into a garbage heap
Framework ❤️
ALL MY HOMIES HATE UNATTENDED UPGRADES
Debian getting an update? What wizardry is this? Oh wait it still has a 9 year old version of sqlite.
https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/sqlite3
Package: sqlite3 (3.40.1-2+deb12u1)
https://www.sqlite.org/releaselog/3_40_1.html
SQLite Release 3.40.1 On 2022-12-28
TIL 2022 was 9 years ago
I know you're joking but the fact that 2022 was 6 years ago is crazy to me. It don't feel like that at all
2022-12-28 is actually about 2.6 years ago.
Shit, wrong timeline. I knew something felt off. Welp, back to the time machine…
And that's for bookworm, which was released in June 2023.
Trixie currently has, and will likely have, sqlite3 3.46.1, which was released 2024-08-13.
Yeah, and I use trixie myself, but I think that it's reasonable to use Debian stable rather than Debian testing in response, because for Debian, "release" is when it enters stable.
It is true that trixie is expected to become new stable within about two weeks, so we're right on the verge of a new release, but it still isn't out the door.
Just a heads up, if you're on the 7040 mainboard, I needed to add this to the kernel command line on Debian 13 for reliable suspend/resume. Without it, the screen would just be grey sometimes and not resume
amdgpu.dcdebugmask=0x10
Edit: may also only affect the 2.8k display
Thanks! Unfortunately I'm on OG i5 with CMOS battery solder mod and all. 🫠
You walked so I could run 🙂
I loved the idea of the framework when it was announced, but I wanted to see a couple iterations proving out it was really going to be upgradable and repairable
Loving it now
Whelp you just described why it won't be the year of the Linux desktop.
I've never had a Windows laptop suspend correctly, so...
I guess it's the year of the macOS desktop?
I have many older yet quite serviceable Macs (2015 or so) that I’ve been partitioning and trying out different distros—so far no issues whatsoever. I know I can get past Monterey (last OS version officially supported by Apple on these) using OpenCore but I really don’t like any of the MacOS versions past Monterey
I have been soloing Linux for 5 years now.
But tbh, I have had almost no issues regarding suspend/hibernate on Windows. On Linux, on the other hand... For starters, hibernate never worked for me.
That's why I was saying macOS is really the only option if your definition of "year of" is suspend/resume reliability. It highly depends on the hardware for Linux/Windows
The last two Windows laptops I've used (last 5 years), one wouldn't suspend correctly (in suspend, it wouldn't fully suspend and drained >5% battery/hour) and the other, on resume, couldn't play audio without restarting
this is why I use Arch.
Except windows doesn't ever actually shut down after the reboot if you tell it to "update and shut down" lmao
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