What's even the argument here? Steam already has parental control options, age gates, and content filters... if you don't want your kids seeing that shit on steam, then, like, don't let em?
...meanwhile, let's just continue shoving blatant gambling down minors' throats in the form of lootboxes.
The argument is control. Religious zealots are all about controlling society and subduing people to follow their rules (that they themselves tend to break all the time)
That's their goal for sure, what I mean is how are they pretending to justify it?
There's usually some on-paper benevolent veneer to wrap their hateful bullshit up with.
For example, they hate trans people, but they don't campaign on that out loud - they justify that hated under the guise of shit like protecting bathrooms.
But this is fucking Steam - access to that bathroom is already under lock and key behind an armed guard. They can't just pull the "think of the children!" card when the children already have a myriad of protections.
...or maybe they can, considering what just happened. We live in stupid times.
They precisely can and they kinda just did. "Think of the children" is the magic phrase to shut down critical thinking and give you carte blanche to do whatever you want.
Not always. School shootings happen and suddenly crickets on gun control. "Think of the children" only applies to moral outrage, not tangible physical threat prevention. Also applies to school lunches and any other actual tangible thing to ACTUALLY benefit general child welfare.
They want a nanny state to do their parenting for them, cus they are shit parents who spend their time petitioning the government about things they could just fucking unplug.
They are quite literally lying about the content of games like GTA V. They pulled the whole "the goal of the game is killing women" schtick
That's their goal for sure, what I mean is how are they pretending to justify it?
The same way they always do: "WONT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?!?!?!1111"
This group isn't interested in protecting children they're just interested in pushing their own beliefs on everybody else. The easiest way they can do that is to pretend that they're interested in children. Which I'm sure some of them are, but not in the capacity that anyone wants them to be.
It's a classic right-wing tactic. Because nobody wants to be against a law that protects children.
And the reason sexual things had to be filtered was that they are harmful and skew kids' perception of healthy sexuality.
Gambling wasn't considered healthy even where and when marrying a toddler was normal. After all, a traumatized person with unhealthy sexuality does generally understand they are traumatized, a person taught that addiction is normal - not.
Feels like we're going back to the 90s/00s "Christian parents against video games" moral panic era. But this time, they're being appeased more heavily.
I despise conservatism. It destroys everything it touches.
It's another Satanic Panic.
And there's way fewer Christians nowadays
But more fascists
It's amazing how they have a book that tells them to love everybody and somehow they've taken that, and turned it into oppress everybody.
Just as long as they get rid of dungeons and dragons. Everyone knows that's the real danger in our society.
Keep the pressure on.
Collective Shout got them to change their position and they're a small group. We are legion, as the kids say
And we're the ones spending the money
That's really what I don't get. Why make it impossible for people to give you money. That doesn't seem to be the way capitalism is supposed to operate if something is popular then you should allow it.
Maybe it’s just because I’m so focused on my own issues as a US citizen… But how the hell did some Australian Christofascist group get this powerful? Like, the RIAA and MPAA combined couldn’t get the United States government to make this much movement on “objectionable content” (piracy at the time, and also now, and all of the time between then and now), but even the crypto fascists of yesterday year couldn’t get this much traction. Probably because people like Frank Zappa and Fred Rogers came forth to criticize the ridiculousness and the consequences of such a position and search policies.
May 1, 1969: Fred Rogers testifies before the Senate Subcommittee on Communications
And 16 years later:
Frank Zappa at PMRC Senate Hearing on Rock Lyrics
STAND UP!!! FIGHT BACK!! Citizen complacency is the most powerful weapon the fascist have – – relying on that you will be paralyzed with fear and do nothing to stop them.
RISE UP! RESIST! REVOLT!!
And show us the fucking Epstein files already, you fucking rapist, con man, felon, pedo, traitor!
They got together enough people to mass email, that is all it took.
Companies tend to multiply received responses to represent the total number of people who were to lazy to complain, so Visa and MasterCard saw 1,000 emails as 10,000,000 in their risk averse actions.
Now 4chan is pissed and have started their own mass email and phonecall campaign, so we shall see where this goes...
Sounds like we're fighting back with the same technique! Good enough for me!
Visa also have a fairly well documented history of kowtowing to Christian groups. The CEO of their Asian division is a right-wing religious fanatic who hates, well he's a religious fanatic so you know what he hates, but it's basically everything and everybody.
They don't like Japanese anime very much as well, probably because they think it's all pornography (anime does tend to have that bent, but it's not all pornography).
The thing is on their website they claim not to make moral judgements about purchasers, they claim to authorise anything that isn't actually illegal, so they should be totally fine with pornography and anime. If they are going to be right-wing religious fundamentalists at least they could be honest about it on their website.
Probably because they didnt go throught the government, which takes a long time to move on anything, and just put pressure on some profit seeking corporations that just want to get a bother to go away, but which also unfortunately have been put in a position of practical power equal to some types of legislation.
But how the hell did some Australian Christofascist group get this powerful?
It's Australia, we only laugh when China does it, otherwise it must be good if we're doing it.
Want to have backdoors to chat apps, done, allow the siezure and forced unlocking of computers and phones at the border, done. Inter refigees in our own offshore concentrarion camps for decades until they suicide and make it illegal to report on, done. Regularly kill our first nations peoples amd have the jailed ? Done. We're a fucken' embarrassment!
"[Elon Musk] said he wanted to get his own X payments platform «going soon»".
Surely that's going to solve the problem. There's absolutely no censorship on Twitter. /s
Oh it'll be interesting to see how he manages to make a worse payment processor than PayPal. I wouldn't have thought it was possible.
When there are enough competing parties, the argument of "I live in country A and I don't care about B's special services reading my messages", where A and B are in a state of adversity, starts working.
By competing parties I mean not just A and B, but a plethora of snakes in that pit.
So - do it Elon. It's fine.
So sick of conservatives forcing their beliefs on others. Filter your own content, use parents controls, don’t ban everything you don’t like because of your arrogant belief in made up morality. Morality is relative and religion does not give your opinions weight.
Somebody should check their PCs and internet history; after all, name a better duo than Conservatives and Projection.
I’d bet real money that the CEO of Collective Shout has CSAM on one or more of their computers.
I would put ten dollars on it.
I'm all in! Three fiddy for the pool
Batman and Robin are a way better duo.
I mean, they actually try to do good and oppose nazis instead of be them.
While Collective Shout solely targeted games it said violated policies held by payment platforms, Itch.io's move to temporarily remove all NSFW content resulted in games with LGBTQ+ themes being removed.
One petition signer who is a member of the LGBTQ+ community said they were concerned that banning sexual-based games would be the start of cracking down on LGBTQ+ content.
There it is.
Tired of this story. The fucking prudes need to give up and stop already. Shit
Fuck Collective Shout, or anyone spreading censorship!
The Mastercard/Visa monopoly (or duopoly) is bad for consumers. It should be broken up.
What are the alternatives to Visa/Mastercard?
Discover, American Express, Diner’s Club, and the one that still rules them all, Cash. There are probably others, but Visa and Mastercard are the two largest.
To clarify against what many people jump to assume: Collective Shout is not a religious organization. Its stated goal is protecting children against content they believe may help form dangerous and abusive behaviors in real life. (Needless to say, science does not seem to back these claims)
This doesn't make them right by any means at all, but we need to understand our enemy if we want to be productive in fighting it.
Um, the founder of Collective Shout, Melinda Tankard Reist, absolutely identifies as a pro-life Christian who has said that her faith 100% influences her activism.
So it's absolutely hilarious that you believe we need to "understand our enemy", when you've failed to identify the faith and influence of the founder and primary force behind it.
I don't think this is entirely true. They're not overtly religious, but there's a lot of ostensibly "feminist" groups in many countries that are being funded by US religious groups. Someone posted their financials the other day, and they are simply not plausible for a random "we don't like porn" activist group. There's a lot of astroterfing going on, and the worst part is that everyone seems to just be accepting it.
I’d love to boycott them, but literally everything I do uses one of those 2.
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