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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This logic is outdated. The top of the line iPhones are no more (and sometimes a bit less) than comparable Android flagships.

Their base models come in around high-midrange Android, true. But some of the specs (CPU/camera) still beat out Android phones at their price range. Heck on CPU they often beat more expensive Android phones.

I'm not saying that because I'm a fan of Apple it's just like, it's not just them. I've had something like 9 Android phones and 6 iPhones. Really in the end they aren't that different day-to-day.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Sweet Jesus, why do you buy so many phones?

I bought the first iPhone the week it came out, and I'm at 2 iPhone's, 4 android phones.

You must be the target audience for these companies.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 months ago

I'm a techie guy. I like tech. I run my own servers at home. I run a Lemmy instance.

Trust me I am very aware I absolutely do not NEED a new phone. But if I can get a good deal on a new one and recoup a significant amount by trading/selling the old - I do (after a year or so, usually)

It's something that interests me. Some people collect knick-knacks and probably spend more than I do on consumer electronics.

[-] Michal@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

I dont think the iPhone camera is better. In blind tests done by MKBHD, Google pixels consistently win.

[-] rowdy@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 months ago

Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra 256GB - $1299

Apple 16 Pro Max 256GB - $1199

Google Pixel 9 Pro 256GB - $1199

The only person being represented by this meme is OP.

[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

My current galaxy cost like $200

People paying a grand for a cell phone are suckers for real

[-] accideath@feddit.org 6 points 2 months ago

Apple devices mostly aren‘t significantly more expensive than their counterparts by other manufacturers.

However, most of those offer cheaper alternatives that Apple doesn’t. While the most expensive Samsung S25 is more expensive than the equivalent iPhone, Samsung also sells models under 100€. That does skew the perception towards Samsung being more affordable.

Which it is, of course, if you don’t care about the extra amenities of more expensive phones.

[-] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Apple's discounting strategy is generally to sell last year's model, sometimes the model before that, with roughly $200 discounts for each year since its release. They sometimes release a lower spec model (the 16e is the current example, prior SE models or even the mini models from previous generations were part of this strategy as well) and that sometimes means the 2-year-old model isn't kept available as long.

That's where their 5-7 year support window really shines, in that they can just sell older models as discounted models, knowing that the new owner will still get 3-5 years of support.

The other thing is that the used market for iPhones is pretty robust. I can go buy used phones that are 3 or 4 years old and still get a good 1-4 years of additional support. At least in the U.S., if you told me my budget for a phone was gonna be $300 for the next 2 years, I think I'd probably buy a used iPhone.

As it currently stands, I'm still on Pixels on a 2 year cycle, but I also know that my "sell used to offset the price of my new phone" strategy also would be much cheaper if I did it with iPhones instead of Pixels.

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

That's where their 5-7 year support window

This is one of the worse scams that Apple perpetrate with iOS admins iPadOS - yes, the devices get updates for as many years as specified. However, basically all apps available for iOS and iPadOS only support the two latest versions of the OS, meaning that once your device is out of support, it functionally becomes a brick after one year, as no apps will support it anymore.

Android has a worse record of keeping the OS up to date on devices, but app developers on Android routinely support 10 or more versions back of the OS, making this problem less severe.

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[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 2 points 2 months ago

You can buy a brand new iPhone 16e starting at $599.

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[-] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

Their 1TB version is $1600 because they get away with charging $400 for $40 worth of storage.

[-] Michal@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

Is it really 40$ in that form factor?

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[-] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Galaxies and pixels are half off msrp like 6 months later.

[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago

When android isn’t spyware, I’ll consider switching.

[-] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

While this is a fair criticism of Android you don't exactly have access to check and see if Apple is doing the same thing like you do with Android. You're really just taking Apple at their word and they wont even let you cloud save to anything but their servers and can dig through your photos to find illegal content.

[-] lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago

Let me tell you about our lord and saviour GrapheneOS

[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not sure if you’re being sarcastic. If so, hilarious! But, it’s the expected response from an android Lemmy user to reference graphene os.

I actually bought a pixel and installed graphene on it just to give it a try. It’s not bad, and I can do probably 90% of the things I need on there. There are even some nice apps and features you can’t get on iOS (storage scopes is cool). But, at the end of the day, switching is hard. My biggest gripe is backups suck and fail 100% of the time, also no support for touchless payments. Also, android doesn’t manage battery life that well. Some days it’s fine, but other days it randomly drains to almost zero. At the end of the day, I don’t think the solution is to hack together an OS to work on a company’s hardware that doesn’t really support the mission. I wish the Graphene team would partner with Fairphone or something. Anyway, I’ll probably keep using the Pixel here and there, but I don’t know if I could daily drive it. I did try.

[-] chrizzly@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

Since you mentioned Fairphone, another option as custom ROM would be e/OS which is not only supported but also comes pre-installed on fairphones (if you choose so). Sure, there are differences to Graphene, but I installed e/OS on my fp6 a few weeks ago and Im super happy with it - no more Google! And battery performance is pretty decent, too.

Tbf, never been an Apple guy, so I cant say how the switch would be for you, but coming from Xiaomi-Android it felt really refreshing :D

[-] MajesticTechie@feddit.uk 1 points 2 months ago

For contactless payments, try Curve: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.imaginecurve.curve.prd

I am curious how Android Auto works with Graphene. I missed Android Auto when I was using LineageOS

Battery is also an issue even on Stock Android. The 5G chips on the recent Pixels drain it like a MF.

It really is annoying, I really want a cheap phone that doesn't spy on me. I'm either stuck between an expensive and closed EcoSystem, Android which I can't trust to fart near or Custom Roms which does lack features

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Fanboi: “Apple does everything Android does! They just lie about it!”

Apple is no saint, but they have a different business model with different pressures. There’s little incentive for them to commit the same sins Android does.

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[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 5 points 2 months ago

So tired of the audience participation in these endless phone wars. Oh you have a smart phone? Dope! They’re cool and useful. Anyway

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

I like Apple’s os, App Store and processors better than android’s. I like Android’s everything else better than apple’s.

Ultimately you are getting fucked anyway but you get to pick the guy who fucks you.

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[-] buttnugget@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

If people were simply pointing out the pros and cons of the various devices, it would be very helpful and useful. I don’t care if you hate Apple, I just want information about the hardware and software and if it’s a good value proposition.

[-] Nangijala@feddit.dk 3 points 2 months ago

Honestly, the only thing I care about when it comes to what other people do regarding phone purchases, is that that they at the very fucking least use their old phone until it breaks and don't just go out and buy a new phone every two years because they want something new and shiny. People who do that low key disgust me.

[-] knemesis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

My upgrade schedule is about 7–8 years. iPhones do “just work” for that long.

[-] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

i am withing this from my 2018 Huawei : Hello !

[-] Michal@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

I tried using and old iPhone. You can't install anything on it. If you go to the app store, it won't tell you which apps are compatible. It'll just download the app, and then show you error.

Android is better at this, apps generally support old versions for longer, and the play store is better at showing compatible apps.

[-] thaklor@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Wouldn't that effectively end the used phone market, forcing everyone to pay for new?

[-] Nangijala@feddit.dk 1 points 2 months ago

If phones were built to last and something you would only buy once every 10ish years, I think we would all be better for it. I also think buying a phone from new would mean something different than it does in today's consumer culture. It would be way cheaper longterm for everybody as well.

The used phone market only exists because of the current buy and throw away culture we live in.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Personally I wish there was a way to just build a phone like with PCs. With the exception of needing to upgrade my SSDs my computer is basically good for another 10 years or so, I wish I could do the same for a smart phone.

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[-] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

leaves out the part where their old iphone "just stopped working" after a required update.

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[-] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

The Iphone is a luxury commodity and like all luxury commodities it marketed for people with little sense and lots of money who are easily separated from the ladder with shiny trinkets. Before the Iphone there was the Rolex and the super-secret clothing designer brands only 1%er yuppies think they know about. Before that people ground up egyptian mummies for medicine/taste and bought expensive jar of nutmeg spice from halfway across the world imported via boat. These kind of people were always going to spend 2000$ on trinkets whether its a 2000$ pocket computer or a 800$ wrist watch is a difference in taste. The real question is why humanity can't shed this consumerist prone archetype what is it about people constantly wanting new shiny things that they don't need and for which the money can go to a better place? Why do modern consumerist not have the ability to tell corporations to fuck off? Why is it that after a quarter century of time to get used to the concept of a computer and an email people tantrum and shriek when their tappy button gets moved 2 inches to the left without knowing how to fix it? Why do we consider this an acceptable baseline for human intelligence and emotional volatility?

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

And the $2k Galaxy Folds are for discerning consumers?

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[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

It might just be the old, but I’m having trouble thinking of the last time there was any meaningful advance in mobile phones at all. Face ID comes to mind.

Not a day goes by where I don’t feel angry that there are no viable, mainstream FLOSS Linux phones. No Android, nothing downstream of Google at all… just Linux and a nice, touch-friendly UI. Until then, I pinch my nose and pick Apple as the lesser of the available evils.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Dude I’m still bitter about Apple killing 3D Touch. It’s like companies research what I like and when they find it that’s the tipping point for killing a feature/flavor/model/etc.

Canonical had a really interesting idea for a Linux phone back in the day but it never launched. There are some Linux phones trying to make that happen but it’s just not likely to see the widespread adoption needed to fund development.

We can’t have nice things.

[-] shiroininja@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

2020 iPhone SE is my favorite phone. It’s the perfect size and power. Apple’s going to have to pry it from my cold dead hands.

[-] Jaberw0cky@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I use iPhones for myself and the family because they just work. I don’t shell out for the latest models, this as-new iPhone 12 I’m on now works just fine. I use Linux for everything else but my requirements for a phone are totally different to what I need from a PC. I don’t need freedom or the ability to tinker or hack it. I need my phone to operate as a reliable appliance and a mobile wallet, so I appreciate features like Apple wallet and Face ID. Other people’s requirements might differ but I think it is just a case of horses for courses. But don’t get me started on all the advanced features of the iPhone that are hidden so well behind the pretty ui most people will never ever realise they exist..

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