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Wouldn't it be better to just make that information available on request? Make it known that they can retrieve that information at any time, but they don't have to if they prefer not to know.
that's the recommendation, to build a framework and make information more easily obtainable to people who are questioning their birth status.
Holy shit just landing this on people apropos of nothing is the worst idea imaginable.
How the fuck can you go "finding out at an older age i was adopted smashed my life" and immediately think "Lets campaign to do it to everyone else"
The upset stems from being lied to all that time
of course. so we should hurt them without their permission, consent or involvement. Why, exactly?
edit: Because I'm not sure you've actually read the article: The scenario here is that these idiots want to have an official government notification sent to every adult currently aware of their adoption status saying "You're adopted"
literally. Among its 39 recommendations, Broken Bonds, Fractured Lives recommended the WA government notifies all adult adopted persons not already aware of their adopted status. A system of automatic notification would be the first of its kind in Australia.
the timeline of the forced adoption process they're talking about is 1940's to 1980, mostly the former So we're talking about absolutely destroying a friggin' 60, 70, 80 year olds entire sense of self for...what, exactly?
This is cruelty on a mindboggling scale. And you persist in defending it when there's literally alternatives being proposed right there.
I don't think obscuring the truth because people will react badly to it is a worthwhile endeavor. How people choose to react to the truth is up to them, they deserve it regardless. What these people are feeling is the emotional culmination of Australia's horrific history known as "the stolen generation." We would all be happier to forget it. we shouldn't though.
You've objectively stripped any and all empathy and humanity from your position. I am leaving this conversation
Objectively? You sure about that?
My half sister didnt know her step father wasnt her real father. She found out when she was 19 because another half sister of ours (my father got around) found her on Facebook.
It shattered her.
I was told when I was 5 years old by my mom I was adopted by my step father. She did it in a shitty way, (during their messy kids in the middle divorce) but at least she was honest.
Definitely prefer the way I found out, to the way my sister did. Finding out young, I think it was easier for me to adapt, and have support. My sister still doesn't have a great relationship with her mom and step father, and it's been some years.
Kids don't like it when their parents lie to them, who knew.
We're not dealing with kids though, these nutters want every damned adult unaware of their adoption status to have their worlds mandatorily blown apart.
Idk, I've 3 siblings not raised by this man, and we all would rather know, than not. Honesty, I feel, is important in human relationships.
I'd be interested to hear from someone who wishes they didnt ever find out they were adopted. Im sure people like that exist.
Should the government get involved? I personally don't think they should, but, an interesting social concept to discuss.
Thisbisn't a thought experiment , these are people's lives
Psychologists are pointing out the massive damage this would cause just dumping on people as adults without their request "Hey, you're adopted" and for...what, exactly?
Their recommendations to build a framework to make it easier for people who want to know to find out is far saner.
Identity. Most overrated fad thing ever. People with no personality trying to find meaning in completely irrelevant information. Oh, you're a gay martian? That's cool I guess, but can you juggle?!?
EDIT: Oh wow. What a horrible cunt of a person in the interview. She didn't deserve her family.
Try living for fifty years without the natural ability others enjoy to maintain an identity and then tell me its overrated.
Ask me in 3 years.
47 in sept, ASD.
This magical ability to "maintain an identity" you speak of, is not a real thing that exist. Learning that you don't have to define yourself by circumstantial irrelevant bullshit you've got no control over like age, sex, family or skin colour will only lead to you being yourself.
Actually doctor, identity is a real thing that people depend on to exist as social creatures in a social universe. It can be disrupted by personality disorders, brain injuries, etc. It's like you are saying, "Proprioception isn't a real thing, people just know where their limbs are!" Be grateful you don't even know what the fuck I am talking about, and learn some humility.
This is just too sad.
I mean honestly, at the end of the day why should you have to tell them if they look like they fit in, and they're happy, let that be.
Medical history would be pretty important.
Tbh i was fucking 40 before my mother casually mentioned haematomachrosis "ran in the family' and there's plenty of disconnected ignorant or straight up deluded people out there. Not really a strong argument.
Right but if a doctor asked you to check with your biological mother you would know who to go to and be able to get accurate information.
uh, no
1 - Doctors don't do that. they may ask "Any history of X in your family?" but it's not a supercritical diagnosis factor, they can easily work without it.
2 - a number of people - myself included - have no contact with their biological parents despite being raised by them. Quite the opposite, ironically. There are also a number of people who have lost their parents / family over the years
3 - your parents are not accurate information sources.
Right so a doctor would say "any history of x" and you could ask and get an honest answer.
Sure, only being able to reply "I don't know" isn't helpful. But it's far better than telling the doctor false information that you believe to be true because you are under the impression that you know who your biological parents are
That's exactly why adopted children should be required to know they are adopted.
Knowing you're adopted doesn't make you automatically know who your biological parents are. Or where they are. Or how to contact them.
Is really not that big a deal and many people don't accurately know their parents medical history or able to ask them. Generally the only reason is if you say yes, they might monitor some things closer. Or check for something earlier. But they're not gonna say screw you that condition is impossible because it doesn't run in your family that you know of. They still follow the symptoms.
False information regarding history will never harm you. Answering no won't have them automatically rule it out. Especially because they're aware bad communication, adoption etc is a thing.
And if you're really worried? Just tell them you have a history of everything. Yeah mum had this. Dad had that. Grandma said something about that once. Etc. It really doesn't matter outside of more attention given to it. You might slightly waste a little more time and resources. And maybe grandpa really did have that thing. My dads dad passed when he was a child. I don't know jack all about his history or what could have developed later in life.
Argument by bucket of crabs
i don't understand this comment
Yes i know what crab bucketing is, i do not understand your comment and its contextual relevance
I can agree on that, but those are things that can be mentioned as running in the family.
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