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submitted 1 day ago by gasull@lemmy.ml to c/fediverse@lemmy.ml

Are services like Lemmy, Mastodon or PeerTube KYC'd in the UK?

Sorry to be a doomer, but if so, then the Fediverse has failed and we should just move on with a decentralized web that uses decentralized backends: Nostr, Odysee/LBRY, etc.

Maybe the threat model of the Fediverse was incomplete. It isn't just Big Tech who is threat, but also regulation by Big Government.

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[-] Goldmaster@lemmy.ml 3 points 20 hours ago

Uk here.

Mastodon and Pixelfed are working fine.

[-] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 17 points 1 day ago

KYC = know your customer

For everyone else but knowing

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 22 hours ago

Nope the sentence still doesn't make sense.

Is this about the government requiring ID in order to view pornography because, a, it only applies to pornography websites which Lemmy isn't, and b, doesn't work anyway.

[-] b00g13@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 12 hours ago

ysk, it's not just pornography, it's vague and targets "legal content harmful to children". It's up to content provider or facilitator to decide how broad it'll be and for the UK courts to test the scope.

[-] majster@lemmy.zip 2 points 21 hours ago

going after small internet sites would mean we have slipped deep into authoritarian rule

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

My understanding is that a handful of instances on the fediverse have geo-IP blocked the UK rather than open themselves to legal trouble.

I would guess that the others are either operated outside of anywhere that the UK can enforce its rules, not beholden to the new rules (I believe I read that there is a minimum user count for them to actually apply), or are just winging it.

I'd be shocked if more than maybe 4 instances of systems on the fediverse even had the resources to try to comply with this.

[-] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 4 points 20 hours ago

Afaik it's just .zip because the admin decided to have a meltdown instead of read the legislation, nothing else seems to have been affected.

[-] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The Fediverse is decentralized, a law cannot affect all of Mastodon, Lemmy, or Peertube.

There are hundreds of servers in different parts of the world. Choose one you like.

[-] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Big Tech IS big government. It's the same, the difference is just that one has a profit model and that another in some countries can be elected.

And in some, both are the same.

[-] silverpill@mitra.social 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fediverse is very good at censorship resistance, much better than alternatives.
If internet is restricted in your country, use a VPN. If you're an admin, move your server to a different country.

If internet is not restricted, then there is nothing to worry about.

@fediverse

[-] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

The nice thing about the fediverse being open source is that if an instance or the developers required this the solution work be to fork. I predict an new migration to lemmy if reddit starts requiring ID.

[-] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 4 points 1 day ago

I predict an new migration to lemmy if reddit starts requiring ID.

We are ready for a new wave!

[-] IceFoxX@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

what makes you think that they won't take action against the fediverse and simply prosecute the use and hosting... if the whole thing is still legally applied to proxies, vpn's etc would you do that how? this is now being completely enforced and far worse than what china is doing. chat control etc will also come

[-] bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net 3 points 1 day ago

If you're running an instance that isn't courting UK users outside the UK, my reading of the law is that it wouldn't apply in the first place.

[-] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 0 points 1 day ago

There are already instances hosted in countries that don't play ball with the UK

[-] IceFoxX@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

europe and amerika will follow. So Europe attacks DNS resolver etc at the moment. proxys,vpns etc too. so how you wanna reach them later if blocked?

[-] aliceif@mkultra.x27.one 4 points 1 day ago

@gasull@lemmy.ml what the heck are you talking about?

Mastodon can not "KYC" UK users because there is no central Mastodon. Even if an instance like mastodon.social gets bad ideas you can install your own Mastodon instance since node to node communication is - ignoring moderation - unrestricted.

this post was submitted on 03 Aug 2025
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