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[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

Fucking hell, imagine being a "business owner" and not knowing where your supplies are comming from and what factors into thr price. They're not sending their best, that's for sure

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 57 minutes ago)

Step 1: Rename Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America
Steps 2 through A Lot: Repeat step 1, renaming everything else America
Step ??: Now everything is "American" made, problem solved

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 7 hours ago

Josh Smith, of Montana, is a fucking moron who doesn't understand economics.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 41 points 12 hours ago

Dipshit conservatives voted for Americans to have an additional tax after spending their entire lives whining about taxes because a felon rapist pedo promised them other people in other parts of the world would be paying it instead of them.

Add it on to the pile of evidence that American conservatives are some of the dumbest humans to ever walk the face of this earth.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 22 points 9 hours ago

Honestly it's fucking insane that Republicans managed to convince voters that a regressive consumption tax is a better idea than just asking rich people to just send Uncle Sam an additional boat payment every year.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago

NuhUHHH he also promised to hurt The Right People™ and export them back to their home countries! Something that's totally condoned by international law, and they'll totally pay for that too!

[-] Xella@lemmy.world 19 points 11 hours ago

I wish I could laugh react on this.

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 44 points 14 hours ago

Surprise, the US is part of a complex global economy and can’t survive or compete on its own.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

This is, very much, actually a surprise to knuckledragging conservatives. Will they learn from this experience? Hell no.

[-] Juice@midwest.social 19 points 12 hours ago

This is the point! They are crashing the economy on purpose to force an asset bubble onto China and the EU(Germany).

People keep saying we don't make things here so we can't support our own needs of consumption, but that's part of it. Technofeudalism is a goofy concept but it seems like the ruling class is all in on it. Whether its "possible" is dependent on how many people you are okay letting starve, and specifically who those people are. Crashing the economy, recessions is generally a good thing for the ruling class so they don't really care. And Trump gets to be king or some shit, as long as he does what is needed to maintain the rate of profit, which gutting social services and forcing people into unemployment, driving down wages, will certainly do.

Small business owners are some of the most ideologically backwards segment of our population despite being a major source of employment for the working class. They are constantly pressured by the conditions created by the "big fish," and like so many people in the middle class, are constantly in fear of losing their class position, their privilege, their standard of living.

Yoda actually gives a really good spiritual analysis of this: anger leads to fear, fear leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. If you replace his abstract concepts with concretions, and think of it in a class conscious way, the anger comes from the pressures people feel, the fear is the fear of their own and their families well being, the hate is the baggage of nationalism and class war such as racism, queerphobia, whatever scapegoat seems convincing enough to believe, and the suffering is what follows: lynching, war, unrest, starvation, apathy and alienation. The racism and queer phobia piece works really well, because it is the conclusion that we draw from basically everything that we incorrectly learned about how our system functions. If you hold strong to that logic, which small business owners follow in order to achieve profits and establish their quality of life, then racism, queer phobia, ableism, misogyny, etc are natural conclusions.

Wrt Yoda I've actually read lots of actual history and theory, I'm not trying to be ridiculous. But it keeps coming around in my mind, and its something that a lot of people are familiar with. I could recommend better books and shit, but this is just a post on Lemmy, lmk if you want recommendations though

[-] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago

I wish it was 4D chess but there is no coherent plan beyond personal enrichment.

[-] Juice@midwest.social 2 points 4 hours ago

Why can't it be both? You think these people don't get together and make plans? All these freaks are in signal chats together planning, scheming, etc., just like the rest of us but yeah they're doing it for personal enrichment. Trump isn't smart but he commands many very smart people who do the heavy intellectual lifting. When did it become so gauche to believe in actual conspiracies? These people conspire, they make plans, they try to carry them out. If they didn't then they wouldnt be where they are

A lot of what I'm talking about comes from my crude understanding of the stupidly named "Mara-Lago Accords". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago_Accord

Its really hard to say whether they will be totally successful, but they have a lot of backing by the richest and most powerful people in the world. So we should be concerned imo

[-] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

small business owners are potentially our country's most mentally ill population

[-] Juice@midwest.social 6 points 9 hours ago

Its not their fault really, but some are worse than others. It sucks many don't realize that the constant pressure they feel is a condition of capitalism which crushes small businesses and sweeps up all their dreams for a bargain any time there is a recession. Keeping the small business class neurotic and reactionary is a generational project; middle class neurosis is an objective condition, not an individual shortcoming

[-] twice_hatch@midwest.social 29 points 14 hours ago

Lotta people didn't take high school economics apparently

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 20 points 14 hours ago

I did last year, the teacher was a MAGA supporter and tought nothing about tariffs.

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[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

We learned what tariffs are in my middle school social studies class.

[-] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I think I remember hearing about tariffs in 3rd or 4th grade history and civics, like when they were talking about the causes of secession from Great Britain. This was in the 80s.

[-] Opisek@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

That lets us know the upper bound for a certain someone's education level.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 22 points 15 hours ago

Green Day has a very detailed thesis on why this is.

[-] LOLseas@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago

NoFx would like a word. "Idiots Are Taking Over". Banger.

[-] Machinist@lemmy.world 29 points 16 hours ago

Most of the population in the US is about to recieve an object lesson in the global nature of modern manufacturing.

This goes well beyond where the raw materials for the final product are sourced from.

Machine components such as bearings. PPE and the polymer feedstock for ear plugs. Wire. The insulation for the wire. Semiconductors. Cutting tools. Etc.

There probably are domestic sources for a lot of these things, but that comes at a premium.

During COVID, I was biting my nails. I still wonder how close we came to global manufacturing collapse due to JIT failure.

If manufacturing collapses in the US, it will take decades to dig out of that hole. It could be something small like the lack of a plasticizer addtive. For the want of a nail and all that.

What's really scary, is that whether or not the tariffs go through, suppliers have already drastically reduced imports. They did it months ago when this bullshit started. It's just now starting to have an impact and will do so for months even if TACO bactracks today.

Commander Orangey McFucknutts may potentially crash manufacturing and the economy with it. It could be a Humpty Dumpty. I don't think most people understand how bad that would be. Starvation, widespread foreclosures and reposessions. Great Depression level stuff, but most of us aren't farmers anymore.

I wonder if this is why Epstein has suddenly, finally, become such a big deal. (Think about it, now it's news even though the facts being reported have been public knowledge for a decade.) It's the billionaire class warning him to knock this shit off.

Buckle up, it might get a little rough.

[-] RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago

"It’s the billionaire class warning him to knock this shit off." I'm pretty sure the oligarchs threw their weight behind the fascist in the end was in hope of getting a 2007 style crash where they could buy up what little they do not already own for pennies on the dollar.

The fascist destroying worker rights (hell, anyone but CIS Het white men's rights) and setting up an army with no oversight was just gravy for them all.

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[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

If manufacturing collapses in the US, it will take decades to dig out of that hole. It could be something small like the lack of a plasticizer addtive. For the want of a nail and all that.

I'm actually more concerned with this middle-case. Consider fire-retardant additives for injection-molded plastics becoming unavailable or too expensive to get. That's one of those things that requires someone to either ignore the law, or maybe politicians move the goalposts in order to save face; you wouldn't notice in the end product right away. Meanwhile, standards on consumer goods drop by just that much, and things are a little less safe. Only that times how ever many other little corner-cases like this fall by the wayside, for products in every industry (e.g. food).

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

Yup.

Systems are fragile.

Ours is like a house of cards and we just let a felon rapist pedophile come in and knock it all over.

We'll be seeing the effects, large and small, for a long, long time.

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[-] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago
[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

I revel in MAGA small businesses going under.

As much suffering as possible because that's the only thing that'll get through to these losers.

[-] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

I hope they can come to their senses. But I know better than that.

[-] dewittlebook@lemdro.id 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Another case of a company trying to do American manufacturing and their struggles.

Knafs makes some pretty cool knives and they are super open to the community with their customizations and for the ability for anyone to make their own scales

Episode notes: https://www.knafs.com/blogs/news/knafs-nite-may-23-2025

Podcast Episode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yOfiXzud-Y

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 37 points 18 hours ago

Why does it continue to be a surprise?

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

People talk about it being "difficult" to determine what's real and what's not on the internet... But more and more, it's become clear, that these people just purposely close themself off to reality completely. The real world does not penetrate unless something affects them directly. And even then, they will do everything they can to avoid facing the reality unless it's literally a brown person's fault.

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[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 11 points 15 hours ago

I have a hard time believing this. He really didn’t know where his suppliers were?

I have a hard time believing he never contacted them or had to return something.

[-] Mclemons@programming.dev 25 points 14 hours ago

His supplier is probably an American company, he never bothered to ask where his supplier gets materials....

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago

Yeah. A lot of people think that giving money to an American-based supplier means that the supplies are sourced in the US.

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