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submitted 2 weeks ago by moe90@feddit.nl to c/games@lemmy.world

tldr: Australian pressure group Collective Shout has claimed responsibility for the recent Itch.io and Steam developments that have seen the platforms change how they deal with - and in some cases remove - NSFW games and content from their respective platforms.

The group had already been closely linked with the situation, which has seen Itch.io and Steam scramble to appease payment providers like Visa as they suddenly took an interest in the kind of games available on the platforms, especially those which contravened rules and "standards" the payment providers apparently had. It led to Itch.io deindexing all NSFW content from its browse and search pages, and Steam introducing vague new rules about adult content, while removing a slew of games.

"In response to false claims and misinformation about our campaign, we're setting the record straight," wrote Collective Shout in a Facebook update. "Some have asked why we involved payment processors, and others have claimed we are responsible for Itch.io removing all NSFW content.

"We raised our objection to r*pe and incest games on Steam for months, and they ignored us for months. We approached payment processors because Steam did not respond to us.

"We called on Itch.io to remove rpe and incest games that we argued normalised violence and abuse of women. Itch.io made the decision to remove all NSFW content. Our objections were to content that involved sxualised violence and torture of women."

Collective Shout shared a timeline of the campaign on its website, noting how it began with No Mercy, a game which involves extreme sexual violence, being brought to its in March. The group's actions - a mixture of petitioning, emailing, and lobbying - began in early April and led to the game being removed from sale later that month.

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[-] SomethingBlack@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago

We need to ignore them, they're obfuscating from the real issue. Payment processors should not have the ability to police content, full stop, end of discussion.

The person who tattled is absolutely irrelevant and a distraction

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[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

Steam ignored them, presumably, because they sell their products in accordance with the law, and that's all that ought to matter.

[-] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

hot take: people ought to start forming morals outside of legal morality. a Lotta freaks are gonna end up illegal otherwise and the freak factor certainly includes some thing you do that your prudish neighbor doesn't like

[-] Goodeye8@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago

In this context it's definitely a hot take considering the prudish neighbor was able to make freaky shit "illegal" anyway, and in far greater capacity than any single government could. Rape and incest ain't for me but I take serious offense when they get banned because a handful of people decide for the rest of us how the world is supposed to look like without anyone else getting a say in the matter. At least if they went the legal route the process would've a) been transparent and given an opportunity for others to make a case and b) not instantly affect the entire world.

This "scary government is going to take away your rights" just leads to private enterprises taking away your rights without any oversight. This entire thing is a case in point. The government can take away your rights but at least you have a way to fight for your rights, what are you going to do against oligopolistic payment processors taking away your rights?

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[-] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago

Next they are banning sex toy purchases, r rated movies, tabacco, vape and alcohol.

[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 25 points 2 weeks ago

next they’ll probably want to ban LGBT content since it’s “clearly pornographic”

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[-] paultimate14@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

As they should have. Why should Steam or Itch.Io have to respond to every tiny cult of religious nutjibs making ridiculous requests?

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[-] november@lemmy.vg 18 points 2 weeks ago

Our objections were to content that involved sexualised violence and torture of women.

Okay so why did m/m smut games get delisted? Get fucked, puritans.

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[-] knife@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

it's really wild that payment processors have decided to be the arbiter of content on the Internet.

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[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

sounds like it's time to bring the 90s back. rotten.com here we go.

they want to stop the sale and purchase of adult content, so just give it away for free. shareware that shit and spread it like VD.

[-] SonOfAntenora@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Unironically it will bring more people to dark corners of the net, foul content was always free. Now i'm not going for these games, but also comparing the entire nsfw genre to specific games is disingenuous. At the same time violence and shocking real life images are fine, right?

Nsfw involves adult themes that aren't sexual.

That means censoring the self expression of consenting adults.

This creates a huge bottleneck that eventually just leads to this growing in the back of the visible. Porn addiction is a problem, sure. How did pre-teens gain access to this content? Didn't parents give them a fully capable computer at all times?

Back when i used a computer, I only had access to research and office, also flash games. Other than that I had other devices and offline games, on cd.

Modern devices have better parental controls but nobody uses them, old computers had virtually none. Turns out you can do your parenting.

The dangers of this privacy invasive solution is the exposure of personal ID to questionable places, while bringing people towards bad places, that don't ask for things.

Kinda like pirating a game as a kid, because you couldn't buy it, but you only got viruses afterwards. Same deal.

[-] 0li0li@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

They are ok with murder and war simulation then? ROFL Smells like another religious pressure group tbh, haven't looked into them yet.

They should go after all violence in games and media then; we'll see how well they can fend of the pressure... Not sure if they have the ressources to survive that, so I would LOVE to see them try.

[-] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 10 points 2 weeks ago

Oh it goes deeper than that.

Check out their FAQ. They’re cool with the dehumanization of males too. They’re only advocating for “dehumanization” against females.

A game about torturing women? Unacceptable.

A game about torturing men? Acceptable 👍

They mention some bullshit about how one happens more often and the other doesn’t so that justifies being hypocrites.

[-] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago

By all accounts they aren't religious, we don't have *gestures broadly to American Evangelicalism* going on here in Aus. They just seem to be TERFs and SWERFs.

[-] tane69@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

The religion of pure bigotry seems to be the most popular one these days, especially online

[-] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

we don’t have gestures broadly to American Evangelicalism going on here in Aus.

Hillsong says hi.

[-] Etterra@discuss.online 15 points 2 weeks ago

Hey Australia, we've got enough stupid moral crusader nut jobs here in America; please stop making yours our problem too.

[-] Azal@pawb.social 14 points 2 weeks ago

Don't forget Ruport Murdoch who's been pushing the right wing agenda across the country is an Australian export. This is not unusual from that country honestly.

[-] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

He is from Australia originally, but he's been a US naturalised citizen and lived there full-time since 1985, he gave up Australian citizenship 40 years ago.

No backsies.

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[-] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

As if the Yankee sycophants are staying in their own lane as is.

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[-] TachyonTele@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

Why are you censoring words?

[-] november@lemmy.vg 6 points 2 weeks ago

+1

Self-censoring words like "sexualize" is part of the culture responsible for this.

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[-] lime@feddit.nu 3 points 2 weeks ago

it's a quote

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

You know if we're doing a numbers game Australia really exports a lot of shitty stuff. I mean the trade imbalance of fucking garbage Australian bullshit it's pretty severe.

[-] TipRing@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think any country in the anglosphere has a monopoly on exporting shitty people, but I'm hardly going to throw stones what with this glass house I live in.

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[-] bluefootedbooby@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Their logo is a butthole - is this some sort of elaborate troll??

[-] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

e pluribus anus

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

No no, it represents the crossroads of learning

[-] bluefootedbooby@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

Learning about anal, maybe

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Someone down under needs to send some complaints about them in. There is no way anyone who projects that much isn't guilty of something.

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[-] FrogmanL@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

So I appreciate the pushback, but for those of us with the option, what should we choose? Amex? Discover? Bitcoin is non-viable.

I just want a solution, not another problem. I live in America, and we have WAY too many problems already.

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Discover seems to be the best bet to me so far.

Discover is on the JCB, UnionPay, Troy and RuPay. (japan, China, turkey, and India respectively). Probably many more.

Similarly, a JCB card should work wherever Discover is. It's a billateral alliance.

Oh, and all Discover cards work on Diners Club International because those two networks completely merged.

Alliance members are not 100% acceptance. It seems like 95%+ acceptance though (most JCB will accept most Discover cards and vice versa, though you will get confused looks from the locals). It sounds like there's a lot of old equipment around the countries that break compatibility but cities and other urban areas with new equipment shouldn't have any problems.


I'll probably get a Discover card and start testing this out. I already have Visa and Mastercard but this new censorship issue seems serious enough to make me start supporting a 3rd place competitor.

Between Discover vs AmEx, it seems like AmEx is about elite club / customer service / returns etc. etc. nice features but I'm not sure if it's worth the price.

Discover is free of annual fees, reasonable cash back, mediocre costs for the merchants (better than AmEx anyway and comparable vs Visa) and a surprisingly huge offering of international compatibility (RuPay, JCB, UnionPay, etc Etc). It seems like the winner to me as a 3rd card to experiment with.

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