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[-] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 2 points 10 hours ago

My target right now is to play Expedition 33 on something other than N64 quality.

[-] WereCat@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

Good luck with that. The game has terrible rendering issues. Enjoy it for its gameplay.

[-] nuko147@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

I'm thinking my next GPU upgrade might be AMD, so i can migrate to Linux. But i bought a used one in 2023, so i gonna wait at least until the next gen comes out.

[-] zod000@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 hours ago

As others have said, Nvidia cards are OK in Linux now, though AMD is better assuming you aren't doing anything AI adjacent with the card.

[-] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 2 points 9 hours ago

Until you want to update drivers and you can't remember how the hell you installed it the last time.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

nVidia's fine. Use a distro that keeps fairly current on driver updates like Fedora or Arch.

[-] nuko147@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

I think you lose around 15%+ performance in Linux with a Nvidia card. I tried Nobara and Bazzite and i can confirm it, although i did not make any hardcore benchmarking.

AMD i think is on par with windows or maybe slightly worse.

[-] zod000@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago

That tracks with what I have seen with my own cards. I suspect some of it is because there were specific driver versions that many distros favored for stability reasons that may have left some performance on the table, but that's just my personal speculation.

[-] 46_and_2@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

I'm sure they're selling plenty, but I've never seen supply missing, in the EU at least.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Yeah and none of them are available at MSRP so they can go piss off.

[-] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

* in the usa

Last i checked europe was pretty close to msrp, which is weird because its usually a lot more expensive for us than it is for the usa. Just checked, rx 9700 xt msrp was around 670 euro (including tax). They are now for sale for 699-717 euro, including what usa calls sales tax.

I call that as close to msrp that youre ever going to get on a product.

[-] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 9 points 1 day ago

I just purchased a sapphire 16g 9060 for $380. That's almost 10% mark-up, but definitely not crazy compared to what we were seeing with scalpers.

[-] Schmuppes@lemmy.today 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Even at MSRP and 0% markup, those cards are too expensive. A mid-range GPU shouldn't cost as much as (or more than) CPU, mainboard and RAM of a good, but affordable system combined.

[-] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 5 points 20 hours ago

I very much agree that the gpu market is inflated. That is why I practically went 10 years between purchases and only bought a mid range. My previous card before that was a 3dfx voodoo.

[-] Schmuppes@lemmy.today 2 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

My previous card was a Vega 56, which cost me 399 €. I was lucky to get one during launch week, at MSRP despite the mining craze back then. It was a fantastic card in retrospect and lasted me more than 7 years with my 1440p/70 monitor.

I now own a 1440p/144 monitor, so my target framerate at the same resolution is a bit higher than it used to be, but I'm happy with somewhere consistently between 60 and 90 fps. The replacement for my Vega 56 is a 7900 XT (didn't wanna wait for the 9070 XT earlier this year), which still is not a proper 4K card if you're after High or Ultra settings. It does 1440p very well, but it absolutely is not a huge leap in technology compared to Vega. I got it for 600 € open box, regular price (after two years on the market mind you) was more like 700-750 € even right before the new gen dropped. I know everything's gotten more expensive between 2017 and 2025, but an 80 % price increase for a card with a smaller die size and regular GDDR memory is insane. After all, both Vega 56 and 9070 XT are pretty much comparable in their market position when they were introduced.

I've ditched AAA gaming as a hobby before for several years, until the announcement of Fallout 4 made me build a new, potent system. If the "been there, done that" feeling returns when I play new releases in the future, I'm not sure I can find motivation to pick that hobby up again further down the road. Ever increasing hardware cost and capitalist enshittification of the games industry might kill it for good as far as I'm concerned.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

What does a 9000 series have on a 7000? Why do people even buy new cards at this point? Anything can run anything almost.

[-] vagullion@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Better raytracing and FSR 4.

[-] Zomg@piefed.world 10 points 1 day ago

I think mainly better ray tracing for those that want it.

People buy new cards because their games require something better to run smoothly. Some people still use 1660ti's and I'm sure are happy to upgrade their hardware.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

I mean sure, but people on very old cards are finite.

I'm asking what makes a 9000 series a more attractive buy than a 7000?

On rereading the headline, it does not say much either, demand for GPUs manufactured by me in my garage is also outpacing supply.

[-] Zomg@piefed.world 7 points 1 day ago

Ask the people that held off on the 7000 series I guess. People don't buy on the same upgrade frequency as others. We're all at different phases of our hardware refresh cycles.

[-] Beacon@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago

In fact demand for GPUs manufactured by you in your garage has just gone from outpacing supply by another 100% because i too would be interested in your personally made microchips. They must be very small batch and artisanal!

[-] zod000@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

The 9000 cards don't offer much of value other than running a bit cooler IMO. The fact is that the good 7000 cards aren't really available in retail anymore, so it only matters to people (like me) that already have a good 7000 series card. If I didn't have one and was looking for a new card I would have no problem picking up a 9000 series card as long as the price wasn't ridiculous.

[-] Baggie@lemmy.zip 3 points 23 hours ago

Can confirm, mine runs at like 50° at all times and I'm not certain what black magic it does to manage this.

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