where did that bring you?

who knew that this is what happens when you put faith in a Democrat? we've never seen anything like this before. usually the grassroot candidate goes way left after getting elected, not the other way around! anyway, let's make sure that this strategy gets replicated across the country...

The CIA doesn't need cointel pro anymore. The state of the post-Bernie left is that if anyone left of center so much as wins a primary we just start tearing ourselves apart.

Lotta Charlie browns in this thread who are real sure they’re gonna kick the football this time!

Gonna be honest I definitely fell for it

Struggle session feels silly here. I think we can give limited, critical support to genuine Demsocs as being the better of the shit options, without believing they'll be good in all respects.

Mamdani significantly > Cuomo? Heck yeah. Actual socialist significantly > Mamdani? Also heck yeah.

OP, did you think Mamdani was going to be Lenin? cause he's Bernie.

Power dynamics

Get to wear my I told you so cap while looking sad

Just a reminder that in America social workers are often functioning as cops, they are usually agents of the bourgeois state and not inherently doing good.

The clear conclusion I draw from this is that he doesn't want police officers doing so much overtime, which is something I agree with. It is consistent with his plan to shrink the scope of what police handle in the city, which I think is only beneficial. Even if we desire the complete abolition of police and believe that this must be achieved via revolutionary action, the diminishing of police ubiquity and de facto decrease of funding creates better conditions for such action.

A lot of people would rather turn their nose up at anything with the semblance of a mass political project because it fails some criteria and is therefor "tailist" and "social fascist", yet will themselves offer no alternative plan beyond vague calls to organize. Organize what exactly? This is left as an exercise for the reader, though we can wonder whether anything organized by such contemptible imperial subjects and liberals will ever pass muster for the principled do-nothings.

There is little conclusion I can make besides people either making continuing excuses for their inaction (and, if you are engaged in organizing with the PSL or something, great! keep it up. I'm not talking to you.) or that they are, whether they realize it or not, accelerationists who can only hope that things will break correctly or who do not care for their own lives or those around them. What does it matter to you if NYC elects a socdem or a demsoc or a selfsuck? Do you need it to fall down fast enough that people get a smack on the bottom that makes them into good, principled communists? At a very basic level I do disagree with this idea. This is a large and mobilized group of people active right now that should be used as best as it can to advance the political consciousness of the people involved and watching and to achieve whatever material gains can be had in the city. I have concerns about the campaign and the potential for recuperation of Mamdani as a political figure. I neither think we should ignore this nor throw up our hands and say, "it is already a lost cause." This is a moment to hold tight and wring as much as can be wrought from the moment. I hope that the people in Mamdani's campaign and its leadership have this mindset.