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[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 week ago

At a certain point, you need to be force which pushes you forward. I saw a lot of intelligent people fail because they no longer had the external stimulus to go to class.

Also, it is easier to manipulate people in positions of power, but you have to understand how they think and are rewarded. There is a reason why a lot of liberal arts education is focused on having people understand others.

Also, the liberal arts education of a century ago was basically a degree which was intended to make managers. Along with it, the extra-curricular activities were an important part of the education, but just what happened in class.

[-] MakingWork@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Why is it easier to manipulate people in power? What makes them more vulnerable to manipulation?

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 1 week ago

A lot of the official liberal arts college education goes into understanding the perspectives of others, with a bias to people in power and their power structures. While not an explicit thing they are teaching you, college is teaching you how to understand power structures and the people within them.

If you have a better understanding of power structures, it becomes easier to push said structures to achieve your own goals since you can speak to power structures in their language instead of your own in order to get what you want.

Also, a lot of the clubs and other extra-curricular activities are designed to create small power bases to practice these techniques on.

It is a lot easier to get what you want when you can speak on other people's terms.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

That when actually challenged I couldn't justify eating meat. It was just a part of a long conversation with another meat eating woman in completely unrelated majors.

Honestly that sort of thing is one of the most valuable parts of college imo. I was in a place dedicated to learning and thinking, surrounded by people also dedicated to it and it meant that I had a lot of deep intellectual conversations. Those years didn't just give me a career, they molded me into someone genuinely educated

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

How completely stupid a professor can be. My parting words to him were basically "You have no idea what you are talking about." And everyone in the room but the professor knew I was right.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

The Twin Paradox (special relativity). Every time I wrap my head around the idea I lose it a few weeks later an it's a mystery all over again.

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[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

That I had to study.

[-] ptc075@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Being able to communicate effectively is critical in a public speaking role. Sadly, I learned this in the inverse - class was taught by a TA who didn't speak English, professor was never available, whole class failed, no one cared. Still fills me with rage to this day. But, it did make me a better public speaker, so I guess that's something.

[-] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

That if you're an international student at a small, struggling school, you can miss half your classes and bullshit your way through most assignments and they'll still give you a degree.

In other words: I learned nothing.

[-] Libb@piefed.social -1 points 1 week ago

That a diploma doesn't mean shit beside someone being able to say what their teacher want them to say... but that was not really new, it was just a lot more sad to experiment as naive me was hoping for something more.

[-] ericatty@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago

I think this depends entirely on the subject.

I was in a STEM degree and I learned a lot of technical skills. (Super early internet, no YouTube) In the extra classes like marketing, English Lit, I basically learned how to deal with people because of the professors like you describe, group projects, and trying to see the perspectives that didn't make sense to be initially so I could pass the damn class.

It seemed incredibly stupid at times, but making you think in ways that challenge you in ways you hate and think are stupid is actually excellent training for dealing with the myriad of brain-breaking people on this planet.

High School did this too, but less in your interest. High School was "shut up and do it this way, because that's how it's done." This benefits the Institution.

College was "sure, argue, but here's why you're wrong, or if not wrong, you need to be able to see this differing perspective, understand, and navigate it. The world is fucked, there is so much that is morally gray, that you need to learn flexibility. Show me you understand by explaining back to me what I'm teaching you. Don't just entrench your whole being in what you've been taught before coming here."

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago

High School is just busy work to keep you off the streets until you're ready for a job or college.

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