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How it feels to use Debian (lemmy.world)
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Your changes can't hurt me!

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[-] palordrolap@fedia.io 7 points 1 month ago

Using a Debian is like being able to stay in bed in the morning. Heck, someone might even come by and change the sheets while you're in REM and you'll hardly even notice.

Everyone else is up and running about like headless chickens fighting dependency wars and system vulnerabilities and cutting themselves on that bleeding edge and you're hugging xteddy in blissful slumber.

Speaking of which, has he been ported to Wayland?

[-] msage@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago

I have been using Gentoo for over three years and I feel exactly the same.

Updating the system after half a year when I didn't have time to do it? Absolutely painless, everything works.

And I get to quickly remove parts of software due to USE flags.

Also, no releases, I just update, no changing sources, no full-upgrade... just the same command every time.

There are binay packages for folks who don't want to compile locally.

Gentoo is the way.

[-] pheggs@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago

Gentoo is awesome! But I hope you update at least your browser more often than that?

[-] msage@programming.dev 0 points 1 month ago

I didn't even have time to use the browser...

[-] pheggs@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago

I understand, it can take quite some time to compile ;)

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

The Debian 6.12 kernel trying to find modules for your fancy new hardware:

[-] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Going into the Trixie update blind with no backups, first reboot was already a failure, wish me luck.

Success! Only real issue was the nvidia-persistenced.service not starting preventing boot, running sudo apt purge *nvidia* and reinstalling resolves the issue.

[-] pelya@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Time to download new Plasma bugs! I just hope it will decrease crashing frequency to once per week with Wayland backend, with Bookworm it was once per day, which is not fun if you need to keep several windows open.

[-] turdas@suppo.fi 4 points 1 month ago

Using Plasma Wayland on Debian sounds like you're deliberately setting yourself up for a lot of pain.

[-] pelya@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I've used it on Bookworm for like a month, then gave up and switched to X11.

[-] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

I'm on Fedora with Plasma & Wayland, everything just works... Honestly not sure if Fedora is doing something special or all this talk of Plasma being crashy is overblown.

[-] Shareni@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

Plasma has a cycle of releasing a bunch of new features and changes, and then squashing bugs every week when they discover them.

Debian is on a 2+ year release schedule, and the packages are frozen long before the release. So plasma might be either working fine, or be broken for 2+ years.

Fedora is semi-stable because it's on a 4 month schedule, and AFAIK they don't rush upgrading to new major plasma versions, so plasma works a lot better.

Generally from my experience, plasma works best on rolling distros, while it's crap on stable ones. Stable DEs like xfce are incomparably better suited to stable distros.

[-] Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago

Hopefully when plasma crashes the clients don't, so that's something at least

[-] pelya@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Nope, plasma-session crash means all your windows are goooone.

If it's only plasma-desktop or kwin crash, you can generally restart it from a terminal, and you need one terminal window open at all times to do that, since you won't be able to launch a new window with no desktop, or you try to launch it from the text console, which works badly because it won't see your plasma-session environment.

[-] stuner@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Join the Debian Trixie upgrade fun today :) https://micronews.debian.org/

[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

"bookworm" is now oldstable and "bullseye" is oldoldstable.

So โ€œbullseyeโ€ got promoted from outdated to antique?

[-] mormund@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago

No, just how Debian LTS versioning works https://wiki.debian.org/DebianOldOldStable. So Bullseye is still fully supported with security updates, but now you really should have a plan to update ๐Ÿ™‚

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

With unstable all bets are off.

[-] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 2 points 1 month ago

Debian releases when it's ready, so do I -- I update when everything is ready.

[-] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 2 points 1 month ago

If I waited until Linux desktop was "ready," I'd still be using Windows.

[-] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

true but only if you dont use the latest hardware. IMO, if you already have a computer then Debian is 100% crash proof, minus user errors. Using the latest computer spec on Debian is just a nightmare.

[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The correct way with a new computer with recent hardware is to install Debian Testing to get a recent kernel, firmware and mesa and stuff, but put the code name of the next release into your apt config instead of "testing". So then when the next version is released, you can just stay on that, now stable, version.

Trixie just got released today though, so for the time being you can probably get away with using that.

[-] Keyboard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Debian: where change is just background noise ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿผ

[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

As someone who hosts multiple web servers with https let me just say SSL is the absolute worst, it doesn't matter how you use it it just sucks getting set up

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

*TLS

You could just use a reverse proxy at the edge and Let's encrypt certs. Caddy works with only a few lines of config.

[-] Overspark@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago

It's pretty easy when you use the Caddy web/proxy server. Does everything automatically for you after initial setup.

[-] dil@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Go the lazy way and use an open source panel, I like runtipi. There is also dokploy, caprover, cosmos cloud, casaos, coolify, yunohost (not docker), etc. all make that part easy

[-] TechieDamien@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Certbot is your friend

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