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Israel is doing this for no other reason than vengeance. They need to kill palenstinian civilians at a rate of 100/1 for each Israeli citizen that has been killed. There is no moral high ground in this situation. It is very sad.

[-] fred@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 year ago

They have already alluded to wanting to make them leave, a second nakba, etc. Nobody can claim they don't want ethnic cleansing anymore.

[-] adespoton@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

So it’s time for Israeli citizens to hold a vote of non confidence in their leadership.

[-] sadreality@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is what the majority wants... They want to settle the land.

Israeli state is taking too long.

Look at west bank. Playing nice does not work.

Playing hard doesn't either tho

Palestians are stateless people and their presence in Palestine is number.

It ain't right but Israel has ability and now support from the west to get this cleansing op under way.

Gonna see some nasty shit over next few weeks.

[-] Porka_911@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well not really, Qatar will have something to say about that.

Qatar pretty much owns London for a start, so no doubt will pull Sunak's strings when the time comes.

Let's not forget how Israel's formation started.

We're going to see a Mossad type rescue of the hostages, that's all.

Hopefully the voice of reason will dull this down for now. US secretary of state has already told Benji what's what.

[-] fiat_lux@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it's more than just revenge, I think the Ukraine war provides additional cover for finally entirely taking the Gaza strip. It is a convenient time to 'end' the conflict while Western and EU cash / human rights organisations are tied up on the Russian front.

Edited to add: my foggy covid memory has some recollection of five-eyes intelligence or other credibleish rumours this was being planned for earlier, but the risk from the new pandemic was too uncertain for it to proceed. Mid-2021 maybe? Israelis were getting the shits with Netanyahu (again), and he was getting internal political competition / resistance at the time and so he used the IDF to provoke religious tensions just a little harder than usual. That way he was able to justify a defence rationale for a 'new' military campaign and revive his image. I mostly just remember that the warnings were getting more frequent after the Ukraine invasion kicked off.

Edit 2: that's right, he lost power for a bit with several elections and there had been talks about international courts looking into apartheid at the same time too, and he made deals with the far-right to cement power. What a mess.

this post was submitted on 12 Oct 2023
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