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submitted 5 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) by Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca to c/linux@lemmy.ml

It's been a week. Ubuntu Studio, and every day it's something. I swear Linux is the OS version of owning a boat, it's constant maintenance. Am I dumb, or doing something wrong?

After many issues, today I thought I had shit figured out, then played a game for the first time. All good, but the intro had some artifacts. I got curious, I have an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 and thought that was weird. Looked it up, turns out Linux was using lvmpipe. Found a fix. Now it's using my card, no more clipping, great!. But now my screen flickers. Narrowed it down to Vivaldi browser. Had to uninstall, which sucks and took a long time to figure out. Now I'm on Librewolf which I liked on windows but it's a cpu hungry bitch on Linux (eating 3.2g of memory as I type this). Every goddamned time I fix something, it breaks something else.

This is just one of many, every day, issues.

I'm tired. I want to love Linux. I really do, but what the hell? Windows just worked.

I've resigned myself to "the boat life" but is there a better way? Am I missing something and it doesn't have to be this hard, or is this what Linux is? If that's just like this I'm still sticking cause fuck Microsoft but you guys talk like Linux should be everyone's first choice. I'd never recommend Linux to anyone I know, it doesn't "just work".

EDIT: Thank you so much to everyone who blew up my post, I didn't expect this many responses, this much advice, or this much kindness. You're all goddamned gems!

To paraphrase my username's namesake, because of @SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone and his apt gif (also, Mr. Flickerman, when I record I often shout about Clem Fandango)...

When some wild-eyed, eight-foot-tall GNU/LINUX OS grabs your neck, taps the back of your favorite head up against the barroom wall, and he looks you crooked in the eye and he asks you if ya paid your dues, you just stare that big sucker right back in the eye, and you remember what ol' Jack Burton always says at a time like that: "Have ya paid your dues, Jack?" "Yessir, the check is in the mail."

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[-] Wfh@lemmy.zip 5 points 38 minutes ago

Short answer: yes.

Long answer: it starts with hardware.

It's sad to say but a flawless Linux experience out of the box often comes from picking the right hardware first. Chose vendors who actively support Linux. AMD/Intel CPUs, APUs and/or GPUs. Intel WiFi card. Everything else should work ootb except most fingerprint sensors. Avoid laptops with dGPUs. Avoid nVidia. Hardware support comes from hardware vendors, the days of janky community drivers have been over for almost 2 decades. When it's time for you to replace your hardware, do your homework first and/or buy from companies who sell Linux machines (Framework, Tuxedo, Slimbook, Starlabs, System76, some Dells, some Lenovos, etc). You can still buy from random companies but there won't be any guarantees.

Then, the choice of distro in kinda important but not that much. In my 20+ years of actively using and working with Linux, both in the desktop and server space, I've always found Ubuntu and its derivatives kind of janky. I'm a lifelong Debian user, but my best experience on modern hardware have been Fedora on my main laptop and its atomic derivative Bazzite on my gaming rig. Bazzite also comes with a nVidia-specific image for those who can't/wont replace their GPU.

Nowadays to limit interactions between system and user-facing applications, I tend to install most things from Flathub. It might not help with hardware issues, but it helps with stability.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 minutes ago

No more or less flawless than windows, Android, or the iOS stuff.

It's different flaws.

[-] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 6 points 1 hour ago

Not flawless, but also not catastrophic.

It seems like the problems I encounter lessen (or lessen in difficulty to troubleshoot) as I use arch linux more and more.

If you use amd hardware, then I guess you'll have a good time with the distros. Most "user friendly" distros should work out of the box. Try switching to something other than debian based.

With the nvidia open kernel modules, it has been rather hassle free for me.

Also remember to check the arch wiki. It's a great resource.

[-] TMP_NKcYUEoM7kXg4qYe@lemmy.world 2 points 34 minutes ago

The problem with Linux is that most distributions suck for beginners. People recommend Debian/Ubuntu because they're stable but that just means they don't get updated, not that they won't break. The obvious solution is to use Arch, which has the latest version of software and therefore does not break on new hardware. But that sucks too because Arch's goal is not that your setup works either, it's that you have the latest versions of software installed no matter the cost. OK, so I guess Fedora will be good because it's somewhere in the middle. Fedora is better but their non-free codec stuff is not great for noobs either.

I think the best recommendation is Pop! OS because it has none of the above issues. You will still have outdated software but at least not outdated drivers. Just use the defaults, don't change the desktop environment etc. If you install third party software in the .deb format, expect breakage when you eventually upgrade to a new release. Try to use flathub for that. Be aware that software on Flathub is user-submitted and may contain a virus. Check that it's verified by a trusted source, not just some random person's github website.

Then there is OpenSUSE Tumbleweed which I guess is pretty good too but it's hard to recommend to noobs because it's sort of esoteric and because you cannot install .deb packages from the internet on it. Finally there are the atomic distros which have the same issues but at least they should break less likely. If you only need software from flathub and what's available in the app store, they're fine.

idk why I wrote this but yes most distros don't "just work"

[-] Ludrol@szmer.info 2 points 1 hour ago

I also hate fixing issues but once you set your system up, with all correct nvidia drivers and couple other miscellaneous items (gnome extensions, config variables) it will be "smooth" sailing up until you reinstall.

[-] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 3 points 1 hour ago

Don't worry, it's not boat life. I barely ever touch the system and am just using my programs. Settling might take a while, especially if everything is new I guess

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I don't know if it's of any solace, Linux used to be a much more... ahem... "involved" experience a decade or two ago. This was more-or-less the norm:

xkcd

I can't really say what the newcomer experience is nowadays, but I can say for sure that even in the worst-case (as it was in the times when I started using it), after a couple months of furious issue-fixing and trying new things, you will eventually settle on a setup that works for you. Some people actually get addicted to all the problem-solving and start looking for more issues to fix; some start distrohopping to find a "more perfect setup", getting their fix of issue-fixing in the process. If you're not one of them, congrats, at that point you can (mostly) just continue using it, until you need to update your hardware, then process may or may not be repeated depending on your luck. If you really hate fixing issues twice, you can look in the direction of declarative distros like NixOS or Guix, but I will warn you that the two-three months of furious hacking is still very much a thing here, but after that you're set more or less for life.

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

When installing distributions generally regarded as user-friendly on hardware that's well-supported, I usually do have pretty low-fuss experiences. It's usually no more trouble than installing Windows, though the average Windows user has never actually done that.

When installing Arch Linux ARM on an old Chromebook and trying to make tablet mode and rotation play well with various lightweight window managers, I did not, in fact have a flawless experience. Once I tried Gnome on it, the experience became much smoother, but that's a little heavyweight on a 4gb machine.

[-] illusionist@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

You compare a machine that a vendor has prepared for windows to you preparing the os for linux. It sounds like you did the setup. Alternatively, you could've paid someone to do that job for you. You could've bought a framework laptop with linux. It would work out of the box without any issues. And if there is one, you can blame framework.

Because I had issues with the distros I was using, I distro jumped. If the distro is perfect, there is little reason to jump. Ever since jumping onto fedora silverblue I don't do anything with the OS anymore. It just works. I mainly install flatpaks. Did you try a live usb with some distros before deciding upon ubuntu studio? You chose one niche distro and to me it sounds like you judge about all distros.

A distro is just a package manager and a set of settings and apps pre selected by someone. If those settings don't work out for you, it might be the wrong distro.

[-] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 hours ago

My experience has been very different. While I'm competent on Linux from the server world, I haven't run a desktop Linux in decades, and never seriously. Until I switched a few months ago, choosing CachyOS. Honestly, almost everything just worked. Games, music, video, browsing, office. Even Ms teams for work. The only fiddly bit was getting the VPN for work to connect, and remote desktop works but isn't equal in quality/feel. But that's just a slight inconvenience that isn't even bad enough for me to start looking into it.

One game (a demo) I couldn't get to run, and I know it should work and just doesn't on my system. Haven't bothered digging into this either, I have plenty of other unplayed games. Another game I play frequently (online/multiplayer) gave me some lag issues early on, I tried a few settings and it's fine now.

Absolutely nothing of my experience would I describe as a struggle. Frankly most of the time I forget I'm not on Windows. I just use my PC. Sometimes I want to check some windows specific setting, open the "not start menu" and then realize "right, this isn't Windows".

[-] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 4 points 2 hours ago

It stopped happening to me when I bought hardware supported by Linux. Intel or AMD GPU, a Thinkpad laptop, Atheros wifi, all the stuff that people recommend.

[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 48 points 5 hours ago

Think of your workstation running Ubuntu Studio as new shoes that need running in.

I've been using Debian Linux as my primary desktop for over 25 years. The amount of downtime I experience is negligible. When I look at the sheer volume of MacOS updates requiring a reboot, or the absurd number of "fixes" pushed by Microsoft, I'm very content.

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago

^ This, Debian just works and gets out of your way. But no one seems to recommend it.

[-] azimir@lemmy.ml 1 points 47 minutes ago

I usually start a desktop on Mint since it's got at least some new drivers and a few more tools with Cinnamon desktop.

If the hardware is finicky or there's odd devices a distro doesn't handle, I often just try a different distro instead of driver hacking. It's a very big hammer, but I'd rather have things work with the distro configs instead of maintaining it myself.

Servers? Debian.

Desktops? Mint (prettier Debian out of the box)

Otherwise? Use what works with the least effort.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 7 points 3 hours ago

Yeah because if you have new hardware you're shit out of luck

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

I'm on AM5 with a 6800 and would have a newer card if the cost wasn't so high. I run Sid for fun but I can run stable with backports and flatpaks

[-] morto@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago

Not really a friendly distro for non tech-savy people, so it's complicated to recommend it online to strangers.

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

I get it that's the impression and maybe i have used it for so long so i might have a blind spot but what makes it complicated? Its got a gui installer, a live cd. Other than the not having cutting edge software what makes it complicated?

[-] sunoc@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 hours ago

This.

In my experience, once you have the potential hardware compatibility issue fixed, it’s smooth sailing and simply a matter of getting used to the different tools on Linux!

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[-] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

I get what your trying to say, and the analogy works between Windows and Mac, just a different GUI and keyboard commands. Linux is like wearing someone else's shoes and learning to run in them. It's similar, but not the same.

Literally every day something breaks. I'm at a point I have things working enough that I'm scared of experimenting because it's so fragile.

[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 5 points 3 hours ago

I hear your frustration and understand what you're concerned about.

Ask yourself this.

Is the thing that I've discovered is broken today something that I've fixed before?

If you use the package manager that comes with your distribution and don't install random software from the Internet, and don't follow unverified procedures written by anyone with a keyboard, then the answer is almost certainly "no".

I say this with the benefit of knowing what's good practice and what isn't. I can tell you that if you come at this with a "Microsoft Windows" approach, you're likely to spend weeks, if not months in purgatory. It's no different from migrating between MacOS and Windows, or vice-versa. You need to remember that just because Linux looks similar, it's a different beast and is so by design.

I'd strongly recommend that you start using the machine with ONLY the packages available through the Ubuntu package manager. If you run into strife, you can ask for support. If you go outside that and you break something, you get to keep both parts -- and truth be told -- that's true with any other operating system, just that the lines are not as blurred.

In Linux world many of the distributions can cross pollenate applications and solutions, but that requires experience that new users don't (yet) have.

One way to deal with the "jump" is to keep your "old" Windows (or MacOS) machine around while you get comfortable with the lay of the land.

The thing that most people switching to Linux have forgotten is that this requires experience. You cannot expect to just jump into a new Operating System and take all your old habits with you. Think for example about the differences between iOS and Android, a world of difference.

So, keep at it. This frustration will pass.

Make sure you backup your /home directory regularly. That way if you ever blow something up and are left on your own, you can blow away the drive and start again, restore from your /home backup.

Meanwhile, keep asking questions.

Good luck.

[-] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 hours ago

That's great advice, thank you. If I just copy my home directory I can replace it if things go south? What about other distros?

[-] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 53 minutes ago)

Pretty much the same.

Word of warning. Your /home directory contains your documents, but it also contains configuration files. If the packages you're installing have different versions, you might discover that the config file for a different version doesn't work on the version that's installed. This isn't universally the case, some applications are smart about this, others less so. You can find many of them as "hidden" "dot" files.

You can find all of them like this: find /home -type f -name '.*'

Explanation:

  • find - the find command
  • /home - the place to start looking
  • -type f - find files only
  • -name '.*' - find things only starting with a '.'
[-] littlelordfauntleroy@lemmy.zip 26 points 4 hours ago

Dude I'd be lying if I said I never had issues, and so would anyone else who uses nux as a daily driver. Let's be real though, if you have never had an issue with Windows you are part of a blessed minority. Windows works fairly well most of the time, agreed, but so does my current distro.

I'm sure you're aware that nvidia has it's own issues, but from what I've read that is improving steadily. A big part of being on nux is the freedom, the stability and the security - seems like that is what attracted you in the first place. I think the early days of switching are definitely the hardest. As you have experienced, it can be downright fiddly. It's also largely unfamiliar, and you spend hours googling and trying to find solutions. The upside is that eventually you will solve most of these problems, or they will be solved in an update. You also gain a deeper knowledge of your OS and your machine in the process, and an appreciation of how very complex and beautiful it all is. It's a fair but at times frustrating trade.

Keep at it, things will work out eventually. Distro hopping can be fun and you may find something that works beautifully with your configuration, or you might not. Hope it goes well for you friend.

[-] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 hours ago

Nailed it. I'm really fucking frustrated and needed to vent. I have no regrets, in fact moving my PC to Linux (my work PC so it was a whole panic thing for a day or two) was the last piece to cut ties with big tech and every company who's CEO was at Trump's inauguration or has since "bent the knee". Its been a long, stressful process, the last of which turned out to be the biggest effort. Thanks for the kind words.

[-] azimir@lemmy.ml 2 points 44 minutes ago* (last edited 1 minute ago)

Come to the Open Source community for ideology, stay for the better life. It's a learning curve to get in. After that it'll open more doors and be much more relaxing to run OSS operating environments than you think.

The real fun is when you've been on Linux for a few years and are forced to do some tasks on a Windows machine. It's amazing how bad the Windows UI and tooling is, but it's hard to see until you can look with some perspective.

[-] Botzo@lemmy.world 21 points 4 hours ago

Windows was just the boat you already knew.

Now you have a new (more adaptable) one and don't know all it's squeaks and rattles. You're neither dumb nor is something wrong. You just aren't familiar with what it needs from you.

Give it some time (a week compared to how long in windows?) and attention and soon you'll wonder why you ever second guessed it.

[-] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 hours ago

Good point, I just needed to vent I think. Honestly after bricking it after day 1 ( I made a user the owner and had no sudo privileges so I was in a login loop), day 2 was a lot easier so I guess I'm learning haha

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 41 minutes ago* (last edited 41 minutes ago)

In my first day of using linux I was trying to mount my 2nd hard drive and I mounted it to / which lead to me having to reinstall because i didnt know what i did or how to fix it and my computer was no longer turning on.

[-] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago

Nvidia, Nvidia did this.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 15 points 5 hours ago

You're conflating a bunch of things that aren't Linux issues here.

  1. You didn't have the proper setup for Nvidia to start with. Shouldn't be a problem in the future.
  2. If Vivaldi had screen flickering, that's on their software, and almost guaranteed to be an issue with their hardware acceleration.
  3. Librewolf is probably the same problem as above. Try disabling hardware acceleration.
[-] Resplendent606@piefed.social 13 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

What you are experiencing is called a learning curve. Don't let it get you angry, learn from it. NVIDIA is known to be problematic for Linux users (I have had my share of issues with my 2080 Ti) but once it is setup it is problem free. Librewolf is known to be one of the chunkier options, but 3gb really isn't that much for modern systems (especially if you have 16 or 32gb of memory). I would personally take Librewolf's privacy features over closed-source Vivaldi any day. Linux overall is much more efficient than Windows and I would bet that your system idle memory usage with nothing open is lower than it was with Windows.

[-] SpookyMulder@twun.io 5 points 4 hours ago

I've installed Debian Linux on over 50 devices by now. A vanilla configuration with GNOME works pretty much out of the box for me on a high-end desktop with a modern NVIDIA graphics card.

I'd say the biggest part of the learning curve is figuring out which apps are good and suitable for what you're trying to do. Just like with Windows and macOS and Android and iOS, there's only a handful of viable options among an overwhelming sea of poor ones.

There are many wrong ways to install NVIDIA on any given Linux distro and architecture, and only one functional way. As others here are saying, that's on NVIDIA, not you or Linux.

General advice: whenever possible, strongly prefer your distro's standard package manager to install things over any other method. With Ubuntu, I believe that's either apt or snap.

Also: if you find yourself poking around in some obscure system internals while troubleshooting an issue, you probably took a wrong turn somewhere.

[-] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago

For me, yes, everything just works. Fedora 42 gnome. Arch just worked as well. Nvidia 4090. Heavy flatpak user. I’ve had issues with mint and Debian distros being too far behind. My son runs Ubuntu today though - again no issues. And with a video card.

My vote is something is up with your install. Try another distro - maybe one of the gaming focused ones. Or just plain fedora workstation.

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Hello again, I remember you from another post I commented on lol.

So a few things:

  1. Linux didn't "just work" for me when I switched over. I actually started my Linux journey with Arch like an idiot lol. Imagine the problems I had, pretty much nothing worked out of the box. I eventually got everything working after about 2 weeks of constant troubleshooting in the arch wiki, Linux forums, Reddit, and YouTube videos.

Then a few months later I accidentally blew up my whole system with some command I ran without understanding what I did, broke everything, couldn't even boot into my OS anymore. I decided to distro hop a few times to see what worked best for me. Arch is great if you are a power user, but at the time I wasn't, so it was a terrible choice for me.

I bounced between a few different distros and settled on Nobara, which is based on Fedora but with a ton of kernel-level patches for better gaming performance. And it came with lots of gaming related software already installed.

  1. I actually had as many or more issues with Windows leading up to trying Linux. Windows has always been pretty buggy for me, just bad luck I guess. On average I have way more issues with Windows than Linux, and the Linux issues I can usually solve, but the Windows issues generally I just had to end up dealing with because there was no good solution.

  2. I remember when I posted to you the other week that the most important thing for Linux distros was if it worked for you, and if you liked using it. Seems like so far you've answered that question with Ubuntu Studio in the negative. It's not been working well for you, and you're getting frustrated using it. That's fine, the beauty of Linux is there are a ton of other options, and you aren't stuck with just having to deal with a specific distro.

Some people will swear by a specific distro. They've used it for 10+ years on 15 different computers and never had a single major problem. Great for them, that doesn't mean you will or won't, try several, find your home distro and stick with it.

For me, there is one distro I would recommend for new Linux users more than any other, Linux Mint. It is based on Ubuntu, so you've already got a bit of experience with that under the hood. It comes with a easy GUI utility for installing NVidia drivers, so you don't have to manually install additional repos and drivers via the terminal. Their Cinnamon desktop isn't the prettiest or most modern looking desktop, it doesn't have a ton of customizability either, but it's rock stable. I've never had a single major crash or lock up with the Cinnamon desktop environment, it's simple, intuitive, and stable.

Part of starting the Linux journey is trying different options. Some users get lucky their first time and land on the perfect distro that they use for years, but most don't. Most try a handful of distros before settling on their favorite. You probably wouldn't go to a shoe store, try on the first pair you see and then buy them right? You browse the selection, find a few that look nice and seem comfy, try them on, walk around in them, pose a bit, then pick your favorite.

And like I said before, as you build up your Linux skills, the issues will become easier and easier to solve. Problems that took me hours to troubleshoot and solve when I was new take 5 minutes to fix now. Things that I had to watch hours of videos and read dozens of forum posts to understand are just "common sense" to me now. You'll get there, just keep an open mind and hold on, there is light at the end of the tunnel.

If you need/want additional help, DM me and I will do my best to help out. For Linux Mint if you decide to try it, don't worry about the various alternative versions they have. Just go with their standard download, Linux Mint, Ubuntu edition, with the Cinnamon desktop.

[-] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 hours ago

I really appreciate you taking the time…again haha. I get that it’s a learning curve, my biggest issue is pretty user specific. I’m a freelance voice actor, which is why I chose Ubuntu Studio.

My concern for distro hopping is audio issues, more than I’ve already experienced. Ubuntu Studio was “built for creatives” so it seemed like the best option and based on my experience, it probably is haha. I can’t imagine trying to make this work from scratch.

The obvious answer is to go back to Windows, it really is WAY better for precise audio recording the easy way. Though I’ve matched (and even bettered) my audio output with Linux, it takes a lot more time and effort which won’t get better. Linux takes more steps for NY work flow and there’s no way around that.

That said, I made the switch for personal reasons, and I’ve fully committed even though it’s created many hurdles. I needed to vent, and really appreciate you and everyone else taking the time. Thank you.

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

No prob, always happy to help another user if I can, especially the newbies. I was you once, I remember many nights of wanting to rip my hair out and toss my computer out a window lol.

Audio issues can be a bear. What is your current setup? DAC, Microphone, DAW of choice, etc?

[-] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

Shotgun mic into Behringer UV1 into Scarlett 4i4. I went from Adobe Audition to Reaper and it's been a fucking challenge. Adobe is a garbage company, but I didn't pay for it:) I love FOSS so much but Ardour was a bitch and a half. ALSA is frustrating as well as you can't use more than one program at a time and JACK and PulseAudio don't seem to recognize the Scarlett so those are out. I've got things working, but it dumbs down to like 3 clicks per 1 on Audition. Takes more time overall.

[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

Check this out, not sure how relevant, but a cool project that unlocks some of the proprietary functionality of a bunch of Scarlett devices on Linux: ALSA Scarlett Control Panel

Also if you haven't checked it out already, r/linuxaudio has some posts I found on various Scarlett device questions, you'll have to search for specifics.

And lastly, are you using Reaper as a Flatpak? If you are, download "Flatseal" it's a Flatpak app that allows you low level control of all your flatpak application permissions on your system. You can set all kinds of low level system access to the Flatpak you're using, that can help fix various issues that come up because of how Flatpaks are sandboxed on Linux.

Hopefully some of this is helpful. I'm not an audio expert, so my abilities on this issue are limited sadly.

[-] phanto@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 hours ago

I've always found that there's generally a new way to do things in Linux, but I rarely have issues. I have an Acer Nitro laptop with a Ryzen integrated AMD graphics and then an Nvidia 3060, and I had to look up how to install the drivers, which was rpmfusion, click, click, done. Instead of the usual launcher for games, it's either Steam or Lutris. The only real bitch of a thing was some school stuff. Like, gnomes boxes handles all my virtualization, but school demanded VMware Workstation, which was legitimately a pain on Fedora. Likewise, Microsoft Teams. But web Office was fine, Libre locally... I get hella better frame rates on MHW in Linux than Windows. I didn't pick the machine for its Linux compatibility, it just worked.

[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Flawless? No, it’ll never be flawless. But if something happens, i will know where, why, and how to fix it. That’s the strength of it

[-] dan@upvote.au 2 points 3 hours ago

I've never had a flawless experience with any computer, regardless of manufacturer, architecture, or OS. They all have different quirks. Over time, you get used to the quirks of the OS you're using, and so switching to a different OS feels weird.

[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 hours ago

You didn't mention which version of Ubuntu Studio you're running. Is it 24.04 LTS by any chance?

My initial thought is that you are probably running Wayland, and that your version of Ubuntu has KDE Plasma 5 instead of 6 and/or outdated Nvidia drivers that don't work super well with Wayland.

A quick search shows that this is all default on Ubuntu Studio 24.04 LTS, which is the first version you'll find at ubuntustudio.org. :(

Ubuntu 25.04 (non-LTS) has Plasma 6, which is a very important upgrade if you are using Wayland, especially with Nvidia GPUs.

Just a guess. If I'm right, you have a few choices:

  1. Upgrade to Ubuntu Studio 25.04 (non-LTS). It has newer stuff like Plasma 6 that fixes a LOT of problems like this.

  2. Switch to X11 instead of Wayland. This will likely introduce a new set of problems though. X11 has no future.

  3. Switch to a different DE than KDE. I am not sure what is best in this situation.

  4. Install the latest Nvidia drivers manually instead of getting them from the Ubuntu repo.

Option 1 is by far the simplest choice.

The Linux desktop is in a big transitional phase these past few years, as more distros default to Wayland even before a lot of their packages are updated to fully support it. It's a terrible time to be stuck with outdated "LTS" distros. This is why I hopped away from Debian 12 (13 is out now so yay, but it was a year too late for me).

[-] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

OK, you're right on the money haha. I am on 24.04 (though not sure about LTS) and have been running Wayland, not X11, and it was the first version on the site. Big question is am I wiping everything to update? That seems silly but I'm super cautious now and don't remember when I installed 24.04 if there was an option to do the ol' Windows "update and keep everything" option. Do I just make another USB install and I can update while keeping settings or is this a full restart?

[-] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

OP's experience with Linux:


For real though, sorry it's stressful at times, Jack. I have issues all the time, but the thing is, I've been doing it for so long now I know where most relevant system files are and how to drop to CLI and edit them to fix whatever I broke. It's still tedious at times, but I feel much more in control than I used to when Windows would go tits up.

[-] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

Just remember what ol' Jack Burton does when the earth quakes, and the poison arrows fall from the sky, and the pillars of Heaven shake. Yeah, Jack Burton just looks that big ol' LINUX OS right square in the eye and he says, "Give me your best shot, pal. I can take it."

[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 3 points 4 hours ago

Do you guys just have flawless experiences or what?

When I was new to linux I had many issues but the longer I used it the less problems I had. I think its a combination of new users not understanding the different parts of linux and not understanding the linux way of doing things. That leads to a lot of tweaking which can cause more issues than it solves.

Now that i've been on linux for 4 years everything works as expected and this is after changing distros a few times. my systems are pretty much untouched in terms of root folder tweaks or anything. I would say to keep trying linux since its not 'boat life' constant maintenance over the long term.

[-] arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago

Some distros are more fragile than others. Stuff like not having the Nvidia drivers installed by default (I'm assuming for the llvmpipe issue) are sometimes discussed in installation guides. IDK if Ubuntu has one since I don't use it.

Blink-based browsers (like Vivaldi, Chromium, etc.) IMO kind of suck on Linux (or at least Wayland). It's probably worse with Nvidia cards since Nvidia is still sometimes flaky on Wayland.

The LibreWolf issue is maybe not an issue at all. I'm assuming you mean RAM, and if so, browsers just like to eat as much memory as they're allowed to eat. If you open up something else and it needs the memory, LibreWolf will likely let go of some of it. There are probably some knobs you can dial in LibreWolf (or Linux kernel settings) if it's really an issue for some reason.

I only really have issues when I'm trying to set something up that's not already configured by the distro (or if I'm doing something particularly weird).

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago

Nope, but they have extremely short memories. They spent 2 hours yesterday tinkering with 4 issues. But when you ask them, their system has been solid for months.

Linux is very much a boat. Or more accurately the same engine used in 50 different boats all with their own quirks.

[-] luciole@beehaw.org 3 points 4 hours ago

You're not dumb and we don't have a flawless experience... but me and my son aren't nearly having as much trouble as you. Maybe you're unlucky with hardware support. For some it does "pretty much" works. I'm genuinely glad you're sticking to it some more and I hope you continue learning and that your experience gets smoother.

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