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The arrested man identified himself as a combat veteran and said he was burning the American flag in protest of an executive order Trump signed Monday targeting flag burning.

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[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Where can I contribute to the legal fund?

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

How can you make an executive order like that? That’s not exactly an order.

That would need to be a law, passed by Congress.

This dude has gone so fucking nuts with executive orders left and right out the ass, that no one is even asking wtf? It’s not supposed to be the magical “I can do anything” card. But everyone is ok with this I guess…

[-] InputZero@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It doesn't matter, Trump can legally do whatever he wants, he's a king. 1/3rd of the population of America believes that Trump can rule unilaterally. The other 2/3rds are scared of the first and they should be. Trump and MAGA have the executive branch, the judicial branch, the legislative branch, the armed forces, law enforcement, immigration enforcement, and wall street in their side. They only group not on Trump's side is the general public and it should be pretty obvious now that he doesn't have any use for the general public. Trump won. He's king of The United States of America, I suggest you start to think about what you're going to do about it.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

He can't legally do it, its still against the law.

He's personally immune from punishment, but if he does something illegally it can be undone.

E.g if he illegally arrests someone, they'll still get released... one day... and probably get punitive damages. But Trump won't be held accountable.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah, tell that to Abrego Garcia. Just because one day some judge might reflect that it was wrong for the government to lie, human traffic, and manufacture false charges doesn't mean his life wasn't ruined.

I really find it hard to conceive of a government that doesn't hold their leaders accountable, but that is apparently what we have been doing for a looong time.

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

If you came across someone beating the shit out of another person would you try to stop them or would you stand pointing saying “that’s illegal” or “after they’re done they’re get in so much trouble!”?

The law doesn’t apply to these people, and Trump got his 34 felonies before becoming the president without any consequences whatsoever. Garcia was sent El Salvador illegally and it’s wild he even made it back alive, and no amount of money will change what happened to him if he were to even somehow get that in however many years. If I recall correctly he’s still not safe.

[-] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

He absolutely can do it. He's not allowed to do it, but rule of law has gone down the drain. The USA are back to the divine right of kings, now

[-] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

But her emails! The egg prices are too damn high!

[-] InputZero@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Except that his administration is. Look at Abrego Garcia. He's going to be deported and there won't be any recourse to undo that. If it can be done, with no consequences, and can't be undone, doesn't matter if a piece of paper says it's illegal. It won't be enforced, and a law that isn't enforced might as well not exist.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

My advice to Americans is to leave if they can

[-] nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Running will do for a spell. But I intend to stay and (politically) fight.

Besides, I'm not sure anywhere is significantly better than USA for places to stand against it. No place with humans is immune to the disease of leader worship.

Iran was once a relatively tolerant democracy. Then the people who actually take their religion seriously took over.

[-] 4grams@awful.systems 4 points 1 month ago

Both congress and the Supreme Court handed ceded all their power to the executive branch. We have a dictator now, full stop. This country is run by the whims of a pedophile protecting (at best), rapist, criminal (convicted, not punished - REWARDED).

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Congress can't do that without a 3/4 majority of states also agreeing. It would require a constitutional amendment altering the first amendment. Which is an extra big deal as nobody serious would think to propose altering the bill of rights, it used to be sacred. Mind you the government didn't follow it ever really, but thats what happens to sacred things

[-] UltraMagnus@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The other option is that the supreme court undoes a prior decision, like they did to roe v. wade. Texas v. Johnson was only a 5-4 decision (To be clear, I think this would be awful as well, but it is likely how the admin plans to enforce this, assuming they have a plan).

[-] Professorozone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

No, just the only people who can actually do something about it.

Most people don't know that it is the legislative branch that's supposed to create laws. Oh who am I kidding? Most Americans don't even know there are three branches of government.

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[-] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

That was fast, good on that guy. Will this be a watershed moment when his infernal majesty's decrees are challenged?

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago
[-] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Most of his shit IS getting overturned. The doom and gloom isn't helpful.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Most, but not all. And the SCOTUS is eroding our rights one bribe at a time. If this goes to the highest court, are you certain we will still have the freedom of speech when it's over?

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[-] CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago
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[-] Guyonthecouc@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Y’all know this is just so they can replay clips of their “opposition” burning flags on Fox News. To vilify more people is the only goal here.

[-] CircaV@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

Trunp and Magats are such effing snowflakes they need a safe space.

[-] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Like prison?

[-] Wazowski@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

This ends with blood in the streets. We just need to decide whose blood.

[-] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I have some thoughts on that:

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Is this a picture of the last guillotine execution in France during the 70s?

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

I think it's some well-dressed gentlemen executing a working man. Let's get this guy for being on the wrong side!

[-] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I don't actually know, but good question! I pulled it from Pinterest:

https://fr.pinterest.com/pin/508414245428023265/

Don't judge me.

[-] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Were you..possibly

Were you......

Were you looking up Guillotine ideas on Pinterest?

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[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago

If he was burning a book, the fascist cops would have joined-in

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Unless that book was a Bible. Or a conservative grifter's book.

[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

Jesus Christ, what is wrong with humans

[-] Sunflier@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Jesus Christ, what is wrong with ~~humans~~ Americans?

Ftfy

[-] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Many U.S. veterans I know support the right of freedom of expression, to include flag burning. They say they feel its disrespectful but its the right they bleed for, for people to express themselves

I remember a case where this singer burnt an american flag in protest (I think korean war) and the president was grilled on his take on the matter and he daid that whats beautiful about our country, that we can do these things, and that im the countries we are fighting agianst thier citizens dont have the same freedoms as americans.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

If you aren't for freedom of speech when its an expression you don't agree with, you aren't for freedom of speech.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Hey, it's cool that some of them understand the law, but.... also, I don't think veterans have any special privilege or insight into how our freedoms work.

I don't think any of us need their permission to exercise our rights. I don't think that's what you were going for, but I'm just saying this because so much of the discussion often seems to go to what "the troops" think about it. It just doesn't matter.

[-] HexadecimalSky@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I was bringing it up half out of people tending to use veterans and soldiers as justification for "cracking down" on things like flag burning, saying how it disrespects our troops or something. When 1) as you say, thier opinion doesn't matter and 2) They also aren't as offended as republicans say they are.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's my first amendment right to call the troops babykillers and to thank their Jodies for their service. And if someone wants the government to stop me then they're anti American. The first amendment is especially for the right to criticize and mock the government and her agents.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Fair enough. Also, I should not have had that last sentence worded that way. I should have said that their opinion does not matter more than the opinions of non-veterans, IMHO. Being Americans, their opinion does matter as much as any other, but still the law is the law and unless the unhinged cons get an amendment, freedom should still be a thing...even on something like burning a flag.

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[-] nimble@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

That's such a stupid executive order because the only difference between so called desecration and retiring a flag is the your intentions in how you are setting the flag on fire

people should start holding solemn ceremonies to retire flags via fire in public and see how that goes as well

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

It's not illegal to burn the flag. Any flag.

[-] SketchySeaBeast@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

And executive orders are not laws.

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