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[-] minorkeys@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

A bad leader today is better than a good leader tomorrow. Dems have had 10 years to figure out an effective strategy and developed leaders to compete against Trump, they've failed. Newsom isn't a good choice but he's the only one whose shown any effective strategy against Trump. Wtf are we supposed to do? Keep waiting while Republicans dismantle the fuel of law, democracy and the entire framework the country function on?

[-] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Newsom isn't a good choice but he's the only one whose shown any effective strategy against Trump.

Effective how? Has Gavin kept a single innocent person out of jail, funded a single defunded program, protected a single city from Guard occupation?

What has Gavin created except ChatGPT imitations of Trump tweets and AI image slop? What has Gavin done except promote himself?

Gavin's not effective opposition. He just paid TikTok enough money to promote his meme shit that he looks viral. And his bullshit is going to last just about as long as "Kamala is brat" or Walz calling people "weird" did.

Mamdani has shown us an effective strategy, too. Stand for the people. Actually run on the fucking left. Don't just talk shit about Trump - actually oppose his policies. And convince working class Americans you really do stand with them, so they don't turn to right wing populist scumbags out of sheer desperation to be heard.

But that's not going to happen. Because the dirty Democrat secret is that the DNC leadership agrees with most of Trump's positions. They just want to implement them more politely.

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[-] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

You could always keep doing nothing and hope things change. A lot of people chose this option. It didn’t work this time but who knows….

If we get an election in 2028 and Gavin is the stinker propped up against whatever Trump 2.0 is going to be, we can try not voting again and see if things change.

[-] EightBitBlood@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Cool. So to clarify:

  • Newsom's strategy is to copy Trumps.
  • Democratic Voter strategy is to vote for Newsom and pray all he copies from Trump is campaign strategies.

Remember Bernie and his horde of young male Bernie Bros supporters?

Remember Mamdani and his horde of Republican supporters?

Yeah. Dems just need policies that made these candidates popular if they want young male and Republican voters.

Instead, they fight these candidates harder than any Republican.

Maybe if Democrats want votes they should do more of what makes them popular, not what brings popularity to Trump.

Until then, it's no surprise they're struggling with respect because they've done nothing but ignore what works for their constituents in favor of what works for Trump. Eventually there will be no difference in behavior at all, which is basically where we are now.

Imo, the better strategy would simply be for every Dem to abandon the party, and instead register as Republican. Trump reformed the entire GOP in 10 years because they have no rules for who they'll let into the party. Seeing as there's far more registered Democrats in the country than republicans, and the GOP is a lot weaker towards reformation because of Trump, taking them over with progressives and progressive policies would just be putting condidates in place who don't lie to their GOP constituents.

Honestly, if you want progress, Democrats should start a movement to abandon their party and reform the GOP into the organization it used to be. INCLUDING Democrat candidates. You want to take advantage of gerrymandering? Do it as the GOP instead of fighting them.

This is basically what Russia did to the GOP and in its shape, it would not at all be hard to take it back. And once the GOP isn't all foreign agents promoting an media echo chamber working for a dictator, there's no more evil party the Dems have to fight.

Taking on Trump from the outside has literally never worked. And in the last 20 years, the GOP has undone almost 100 years of American and Democratic policy.

So take them over with non insane Americans, and the GOP bullshit ends.

If you fight them as Democrats, they just get stronger, because Democrats just fight with words.

Not that this will ever happen. But it's by far the best option America has for moving forward.

[-] Sidhean@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

REAL MERCH for TRUE CONSUMERS. I cannot believe that GAVIN WAS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.

[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

All hail God Emperor Gavin!

[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Leave it to Lemmy to hate everything and everyone while doing jackshit themselves.

Edit: I take it back, you do jack shit, you downvote people who call you out on it. Bunch of complainers. Go be the change you want to see in the world or shut up. Now’s the time for it.

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[-] TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

As a non American, I’m so weirded out by people hyping Newsom’s* lame trolling as the second coming of Christ.

It’s a real dumb country to dominate the world, and despite all the suffering it will involve, I’m glad it’s finally collapsing. All the best to you non-insane people living there though, I’m rooting for you (but not betting on you, yet).

*His Gen Z social media staff

[-] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Mockery is an important tool against fascists and other authoritarians. It was even used effectively against Hitler. Their power is entirely projection and something needs to break the glass.

[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

It needs someone who doesn't hate trans people, doesn't platform fascists, and doesn't rip up homeless encampments with his bare hands. Stop acting like this guy is anything less than the scum of the earth, we can do so goddamn much better and dems are completely fucked if they pick him as candidate. Stop making him look like a valid choice

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[-] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Guys keep on shitting on Gavin. I didn't think we have enough screeching at each other for mid terms or even the next president.

We need to make sure everyone passes our purity test. Better trump than a moderate Democrat!

[-] Today@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Do you love him? Is he your favorite choice for 2028? It's he really the best we could find?

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[-] EndlessApollo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Gavin is a piece of shit. This is not a purity test, we just don't want a piece of shit pitted against trump for the fourth election in a row. Stop dickriding a man who personally rips up homeless encampments, we can do so fucking much better and showing him support now, when there's not even a fucking election, just proves your don't give anything close to a flying fuck about homeless people or trans people and think platforming fascists is totally ok

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[-] selkiesidhe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

I have always been partial to the red "Made You Look (black lives matter)" hats myself.

Toss some of those bad boys on there!!!

[-] apftwb@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago
[-] paper_moon@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

The EU should play his own game and funnel foreign campaign money for none-GOP people through these stores.

Of course we should have done this years ago since at this point we won't have fair elections, but for a brief moment, I was satisfied with my thought.

[-] earlgrey0@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

As long as it’s not Gavin, he really sucks in other ways.

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[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 1 points 2 weeks ago

The EU should play his own game and funnel foreign campaign money for none-GOP people through these stores.

Why? The issue was never one of having too little money. Harris raised far more than Trump and still lost.

Shit if anything maybe taking less foreign bribes and focusing more on their citizens needs might have been a winning strategy.

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