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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Modlog: https://sh.itjust.works/modlog/25693?page=1&actionType=All&userId=21053985 , banned by @goat@sh.itjust.works

For context, goat started calling dbzer0 users tankies, and got into a few arguments.

More context:

It started (to my knowledge) with this comment, goat pinged db0 after he downvoted a comment

a note on the uyghurs (click to show

For the record, I believe that the Uyghurs are mistreated by the CCP, and are experiencing cultural erasure and Human Rights abuses, but there's a lack of evidence that it's a genocide specifically (especially since it seems to target the religion, rather than the ethnic group).

Goat banned IndustryStandard, leading to this thread: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52160152/ leading to goat commenting this:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52160152/21070262

He mentions this:

We constantly encounter bots, spammers, alt accounts, trolls, and doxxers, so I need to be vigilant by regularly checking who’s interfering and from where.

Which I find ironic, since there was some vote manipulation happening, which goat did nothing about (and could be behind), but I'll get to that later.

After some more arguments, goat started calling dbzer0 users tankies, saying that letting tankie users engage on dbzer0 comms means other users are tankies:


source

He said that it's different for LW (lemmy.world) and SJW (sh.itjust.works, not the other word). He then poster the "Tank Man" picture to !flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com, as he expected us to retaliate (being tankies, according to him). We did not, in fact, retaliate: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/21089819

He also posted this in tankiejerk: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52268655, https://sh.itjust.works/comment/20733015.

He also may have done vote manipulation, and at the very least allowed it.
Take, for example, this comment: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/21091723
Per lemvotes, it was downvoted by the following users:

The relevant ones here are:

They have all downvoted exclusively arguments against goat and others, and were made almost at the same time.

After a bit more arguing (I'm not posting the specific comments because it's tedious, and they're easy to see by scrolling through goat's profile.) goat decided to ban all dbzer0 users from meanwhileongrad, I think this comment marks when he decided to do this, but I may be wrong.

note on the post that comment was in reply to

I think this reply (by unruffled) was taken out of context. Unruffled is absolutely not defending what's happening to the Uyghurs, they're saying that a lot of people have a double standard, where they will not hesitate to condemn the Uyghur genocide, but hesitate on the gaza one, especially when the gaza one is more severe and urgent. To quote them directly:

Yes, that's exactly what I was saying but of course they misrepresented it. You know exactly what Americans are like. They couldn't give a shit about the uyghurs, except as a way to China bash and feel superior. I also explicitly said later in the comments I agreed it was a genocide. They're just doin' the usual bad faith takes.

Feel free to quote me lol

Since this goat had been banned from dbzer0 for being hostile: https://sh.itjust.works/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=63615

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[-] Flinch@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

huh, turns out having a vague, poorly defined label anyone could use to deride and write someone off as a pinko commie at a moment's notice was a bad idea, who could've possibly seen this coming shocked-pikachu

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[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

That whole community is literally doxing

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

To the fascist replying to me and other lemmy.ml users, sorry for not responding, but we can’t see your racist, misogynist, dehumanizing rants because you were banned from lemmy.ml two months ago 💅

Considering the low bar it takes to get banned from .ml... That doesn't mean a lot

[-] LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe 0 points 1 week ago
  1. Trying to wipe out a religion (and not a specific religious belief) is cultural genocide
  2. Db0 is a shithead
  3. The db0 admins ban users for voting, and I believe in holding people to their own standards, so goat confronting db0 for voting is fine in my book
  4. Just move instance if you don't like the consequences of using db0
[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Db0 is a shithead

Well, fuck you too, mate.

[-] LeninsOvaries@lemmy.cafe -1 points 1 week ago

Just kidding buddy I love you. Everything in my above comment was ironic. I mean, I wasn't very happy with you back when you were an anarchist, but now that you're banning people for downvoting AI and denying the fake uyghur genocide I'm on your side all the way. Let's destroy the west together ❤️

[-] muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Db0 is a bit of a power tripper NGL. He is very accepting of everyone's beliefs as long as they don't contradict his own.

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[-] dbtng@eviltoast.org 0 points 1 week ago

Whatever man. irrelephant, you are pretty free with your own mod activities, don't respond when questioned, and basically don't discuss what you do. So why would anyone care if you don't like some shit? Why talk to you about it, when you won't talk about the shit you do as a mod?

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[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

for additional context, I made a thread about this exchange on hexbear, documenting the issues with the culture on MoG. Specifically the use of 'degenerate' as a pejorative being a red flag.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 1 week ago

i wasn't aware, is there a problem with that word? sorry if this is an insensitive question

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

The term is deeply tied to both eugenics and fascism, Nazis would label modernist art, queer people, Jews, disabled people, and leftists as “degenerate”. There really isn't a reading that's not describing people as subhuman.

Using it assumes there’s a “pure” social body and that some people are contaminants. It's a pretty clear indication that the user is operating from a worldview fundamentally at odds with anyone that values solidarity and liberation.

“degenerates” as a pejorative is almost exclusively used in crypto-fascist and red-brown spaces.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

“degenerates” as a pejorative is almost exclusively used in crypto-fascist and red-brown spaces.

Completely ridiculous. A word doesn't belong to alt-right losers just because it becomes popular on 4chan for a bit. I've used "degenerate" and heard it used many times. No need to fence off our language, just so you can have a shallow easy make believe reason to ascribe someone to a hate group.

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[-] ChadMcTruth@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 week ago

PLEASE DELETE THIS POST IMMEDIATELY OR I WILL CONTACT THE AUTHORITIES

GDNW

THAT STANDS FOR GOAT DID NOTHING WRONG

STAND STRONG GOAT I LOVE YOU

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