The difference between 1080 and 4K is pretty visible, but the difference between 4K and 8K, especially from across a room, is so negligible that it might as well be placebo.
Also the fact that 8K content takes up a fuckload more storage space. So, there's that, too.
Pretty sure my eyes max out at 4K. I can barely tell the difference between 4K and 1080P from my couch.
Try BD vs UHD BD on a modern movie. No Country for Old Men for example. Hugely noticeable.
I don’t care about 8k.
I just want an affordable dumb TV. No on-board apps whatsoever. No smart anything. No Ethernet port, no WiFi. I have my own stuff to plug into HDMI already.
I’m aware of commercial displays. It just sucks that I have to pay way more to have fewer features now.
The settings app on my smart TV sometimes won't launch. I can't fucking believe it. It's a $1000 TV.
My $2500 TV doesn't have a power button if it makes you feel better.
I blacklist the TVs Ethernet and WiFi MAC addresses. I strongly encourage using a computer, Apple TV, or anything that can’t fingerprint everything you use your tv for.
This. I’ll happily buy an 8k TV only if it’s a dumb TV/monitor.
Most Americans are out of money and can't find good jobs. We are clinging to our old TVs and cars and computers and etc. for dear life, as we hope for better days.
And what can you even watch in true 8K right now? Some YouTube videos?
But but but, don't you want better hardware so we can read your brain waves to automatically show you something you're in the mood to watch while we save that info and sell it to someone who wants to control your nervous system later?
I would much rather have 1080p content at a high enough bitrate that compression artifacts are not noticeable.
Yeah, as long as they don't discontinue them.
Here in Australia, they are almost gone. Disney doesn't release anymore and other studios only release the biggest of titles, smaller movies get less and less releases. Some TV shows only get DVD. Its got me importing discs for things I really want and importing a lot of stuff from the high seas
article took forever to get to the bottom line. content. 8k content essentially does not exist. TV manufacturers were putting the cart before the horse.
4k tvs existed before the content existed. I think the larger issue is that the difference between what is and what could be is not worth the additional expense, especially at a time when most people struggle to pay rent, food, and medicine. More people watch videos on their phones than watch broadcast television. 8k is a solution looking for a problem.
Hell I still don't own a 4k tv and don't plan to go out of my way to buy one unless the need arises. Which I don't see why I need that when a normal flat-screen looks fine to me.
I actually have some tube tvs and be thinking of just hooking my vcr back up and watching old tapes. I don't need fancy resolutions in my shows or movies.
Only time I even think of those things is with video games.
It creates more problems than it solves. You would need an order of magnitude more processing power to play a game on it. Personally I would prefer 4K at a higher framerate. Even 1080 if it improves response.
Video in 8K are massive. You need better codecs to handle them, and they aren't that widely supported. Storage is more expensive than it was a decade ago.
Also, there is no content. Nobody wants to store and transmit such massive amounts of data over the internet.
HDMI cables will fail sooner at higher resolutions. That 5 year old cable will begin dropping out when you try it at 8k.
4K is barely worth the tradeoffs.
I haven't seen this mentioned but apart from 8K being expensive, requiring new production pipelines, unweildley for storage and bandwidth, unneeded, and not fixing g existing problems with 4K, it requires MASSIVE screens to reap benefits.
There are several similar posts, but suffice to say, 8K content is only perceived by average eyesight at living room distances when screens are OVER 100 inches in diameter at the bare minimum. That's 7 feet wide.
Source: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-size/size-to-distance-relationship
Tell me Legolas, what do your elven eyes see?
Fucking pixels Aragorn, it makes me want to puke. And what the fuck is up with these compression artifacts? What tier of Netflix do you have?
Sorry Legolas, could we just enjoy the movie?
Maybe if the dwarf stops stinking up the place. And don't think I didn't see him take that last chicken wing, fucking dwarves.
Not sure where 1440p would land, but after using one for a while, I was going to upgrade my monitor to 4k but realized I'm not disappointed with my current resolution at all and instead opted for a 1440p ultrawide and haven't regretted it at all.
My TV is 4k, but I have no intention of even seriously looking at anything 8k.
Screen specs seem like a mostly solved problem. Would be great if focus could shift to efficiency improvements instead of adding more unnecessary power. Actually, boot time could be way better, too (ie get rid of the smart shit running on a weak processor, emphasis on the first part).
So many things have reached not only diminishing returns, but no returns whatsoever. I don't have a single problem that more technology will solve.
I just don't care about any of this technical shit anymore. I only have two eyes, and there's only 24 hours in a day. I already have enough entertainment in perfectly acceptable quality, with my nearly 15 year old setup.
I've tapped out from the tech scene.
What's the point? Even if you pay extra for "4K" streaming, it's compressed to hell and the quality is no better than 1080p. What are you going to even watch on an 8K TV?
If memory serves, last year's summer Olympics were televised (to some degree, anyways) at 8K, even if it was just a technological flex or test.
I can't imagine the bitrate was high enough to make much difference in quality.. But I don't know what the technical details were.
I don't even want 4K. 1080p is more than good enough.
I got a 4k monitor, and I could barely tell the difference with 1080p
Same. Now I've connected my Steam Deck to it, but set the resolution to 1080p. All I ever do on it is watch YouTube and Twitch anyways.
Do you play games? If so, do you really not see the jaggies?
I don't want 8K. I want my current 4K streaming to have less pixilation. I want my sound to be less compressed. Make them closer to Ultra BluRay disc quality before forcing 8K down our throats... unless doing that gives us better 4K overall.
Yeah 4K means jack if it’s compressed to hell, if you end up with pixels being repeated 4x to save on storage and bandwidth, you’ve effectively just recreated 1080p without upscaling.
Just like internet. I’d rather have guaranteed latency than 5Gbps.
Will it make the 480x720 videos I watch on my 4K tv look twice as good?
Four times worse, actually!
And of course the comment section with "16k around the coner, progress doesn't stop".
I can not tell the improvement since 1080P. Are these TVs letting us see into the future?
I want 8K TVs, but only when there's abundant native 8K content to watch on it - otherwise there is no point.
I watch torrented shows with VLC on my laptop. Why would I want a giant smarphone that spies on me?
Fun fact; Here in Brazil, the cheaper tv models being sold are 720p, and a lot of people buy them and don't even know what video resolution is, neither they feel like missing something lol
Yeah, and the television is far better there than it is here in America! For instance, you have live action shows based on timeless children's novels instead of the same things rehashed time and again, like here in America! :-(
In any developing country with low incomes but heavy social media presence and smartphone usage, most people care more about the content and how much they're actually getting entertained than bothering about quality and size.
I can't even see the difference between 1080p and 4k.
Here I am still downloading the 720p versions of movies and not minding at all. If I want hyper resolution imagery I just go outside.
Oh but what if it was in 3D!
Remember that time?
4k is nice but at 1440p the diminishing returns are pretty obvious doubt 8k is somehow going to change that
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